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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

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i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

WingCommander

I think I'd like to clarify a few things:

1. I don't have a problem with the GB or anyone else dressing nice, having nice watches, jewelry, etc or anyone else for that matter. I don't expect these guys to be wearing suits from JC Penny. Not at all. Anyone in a higher position of authority or even Pastoral, can certainly dress a little better to represent their cause, position, stature. It's to be expected. They do run things more as a "business", even more so than a religion.

2. Having said that, I've been asked several times over the years whether these are "Real" Rolexes. Now I'll admit, that clones are REALLY good today. But I ask you, do you really think wealthy individuals, self-made individuals like Hendricks and Jody Jolene in particular who made their wealth outside WatchTower (and even Stephen Lett with his real estate ventures), wear fake-ass shit? You can see they have fine suits, Geoffrey Beene eye glasses, other gold jewelry. Do you really think they'd be caught dead down on Canal Street buying CRAP, and passing it off as the real thing? Not a freakin' chance! And yes, I can tell from the bracelet, and in particular the clasp with the fold-over clasp and Rolex crest logo on the clasp that it's a Rolex. It's not Invicta or some other homeage crap. It's a Rolex.

3. Having said the above, I've also heard the excuse that maybe this jewelry and watches are donated, gifts, etc from wealthy JW friends, etc. Ok.....fair enough. Now the question becomes, is this APPROPRIATE as a man representing God's Organization, to be flaunting such obvious wealth? Wouldn't this benefit the Org and God's Organization BETTER by taking it down to the Diamond & Watch District of NYC and selling it, and taking the money and investing it back into the Org, using it to help people? The GB can wear an Apple Watch (like Sanderson does) or a Hamilton or Tissot. Something below the $1000 mark. A $20,000 Rolex does not reflect a spirit of "humility." Jesus didn't have a pillow to rest His head upon, but these guys dress to the nines, have accommodations on a compound in a forest next to a remote-controlled lake in New York? GTFOOH! Nothing "humble" about them.

4. That being said, remember too that the Flock is constantly brow-beat about not having a "showy display of one's wealth", "not being part of the world", and to "give God all of your precious things." Ok Governing Body, YOU guys go FIRST! Lead by example, right? Be "footstep followers of Christ", by throwing off your fine garments and following Him, I mean you guys are His "Brothers" right? You first to give up your wealth. I'll be waiting.

5. It's very obvious to me and anyone else with 2 functioning brain cells that the Governing Body are not bound by the Bethel "vow of poverty." Hell no! Doesn't apply to them. TOMO3 drove a Cadillac as his personal vehicle. He had money from before. What, a Toyota Prius or Corolla wasn't good enough? How about just a nice reliable Camry? Nope! CADILLAC, just like that old booze-hound Rutherford had to drive. The irony! Stephen "Lett-the-rubber-faced-Clown" it worth MILLIONS OF DOLLARS due to his outside real estate investments and portfolio with his brother down in the southeast USA. You think Jody Jolene took a "vow of poverty" from his real estate ventures to be on the Governing Body? LOL!! Not happening. How many poor, pauper Bethel workers even know about this wealth? I'd guess not many outside of the Legal and Accounting Departments.

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

WingCommander

@LongHairGal:

Here's what really gets me and is crazy:

If you followed the WT's advice to a "T" like it's God's word as they say it is, you're poor, broke, in bad health, shit job, etc. Nothing to look forward to except bad health and the grave.

Now, if you did almost exactly the OPPOSITE of what this cult told you do, and went out and got a specialized degree in STEM, Law, etc.......well then! The WatchTower will be glad to "use" you! Why, come right on up to WT HQ and live the good life.

See, if you've got ZERO specialized skills and are accepted to Bethel, expect to be cleaning toilets, waiting tables, working a bindery or press, packing boxes, working kitchen and laundry. (actually, they did away with those last 2 at the new WT HQ) You'll live dorm-style with other poor worker slaves and you'll like it, or else! But oh golly gee, if you're a Lawyer, IT specialist, Audio/Visual specialist, health care worker (for their Fishkill retirement community) well then! You get all the good living conditions and special treatment. No scrubbing toilets for you!

I had a Presiding Overseer who died tragically young in his 40's. At his funeral (biggest one I ever saw for a JW), I was treated to facts I never knew about him. Like how when he was a teenager, he was a star high school basketball player. That he arranged Congregation baseball and basketball games. This was a shock to me, as I was never invited to these Congregation games. (I didn't kiss his or anyone else's ass, and my father was considered weak in the faith) I was also floored that someone who played the very worldly sports that were totally denied to me and others my age, not only got away with it without being ostracized, but actually THRIVED in the religion and became an Elduh and PO! But, when you work for Elduhz, then break off and start your own construction business, your money in the donation box gets you all kinds of special treatment. Such is the the life of these hypocritical douchebags. And that is EXACTLY what these con-artists are: greedy, hateful, hypocritical douchebags. They'll deny everyone else these things right from the stage, while they themselves have and do them. Seen it my entire life growing up in this cult. It's always been, "Do as we say, no as we do" and "Rules for thee, but not for me!" religion. Any wonder why so many of us are bitter and pissed off? Just seeing these holier-than-thou slimeballs on the Broadcasts makes me physically ill and angry. If Jesus were here in the flesh, he'd straight up tell them: "Get behind Me, Satan!"

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

WingCommander

Haha! You're right; it's "Jody."

Not much better, honestly. He's still a douche for rubbing his wealth in the faces of the pauper rank-n-file Sheeple.

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

WingCommander

@jhine

No, his name is Judy. I've known men named Marion. It happens.

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

WingCommander

I swear, you can't make this shit up!

For years and years growing up in this cult, I had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "Keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth." Of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning Elduhzzzz who ran and Lorded it out over the Congregations, but I digress.

Ladies and Gentleman, I give you: The Governing Body.

I first noticed this blatant flaunting several years ago with several GB members, as well as some of the higher up GB helpers. Anthony Moron da Turd, Lett-the-Clown, etc. Rolex watches, gold pinky rings, gold cuff links on French cuffed dress shirts, fitted suits, etc. It's totally in your face if you know what you're looking at. I think the GB are betting that most JW's are rubes, poor uneducated SUCKERS who wouldn't know a Rolex from a Timex, because most JW's would never be able to afford to set foot into a Rolex AD or fine high-end watch shop. But I do. I know what the hell I'm looking at, because I've probably owned $50,000 of watches in my lifetime. Easy.

Newest GB member and real estate mogul (how convenient!) Judy Jedele shows up talking about Job not showing enough "humility" in some weird talk and basically beats the poor old guy down. I mean, WTF??? He lost his whole family and was near death, all in a bet between God and Satan that was completely unknown to him. Anyway, Judy shows up in a colourful fitted suit, French cuffed dress shirt with cuff links, and of course, a two-tone Rolex. Two-tone Rolexes sport REAL gold, and are on average a good $20,000 USD. I can't see the dial, but if it's a SERTI dial - Oh my! But I saw the clasp, and I know a Rolex when I see one. The IRONY that Judy would give this talk about "humility" all the while dressed to the nines in what would cost more than many JW's make in a year if you added it all up is absolutely jaw-dropping. (Rolex, fitted suit, shoes, jewelry. Could = $40,000, easy.) Truly, these clowns cannot hear and see themselves speaking. And in these times, they also apparently can't "read the room."

This in-your-face display of wealth from supposedly "humble Princes among men" is so over-the-top as to be simultaneously insulting and comical at the same time. I mean, you can't make this shit up! These are the same clowns that demand all of your time, tell the rank-n-file to quit their jobs to Pioneer or volunteer to build JW real estate, tell kids to donate their ice cream and allowance money, etc. And don't forget the "Estate Planning Brochure", used by your local Elduhzzz to guilt your parents into donating every last dime to WatchTower instead of leaving it to their children as the bible actually instructs. Or how about donation boxes at refugee camps? The audacity!

Here's a link to the Reddit thread discussing Judy's weird talk, and it has video embedded showing his obvious Rolex watch and other jewelry. As I've stated many times before, this is NOT the same cult I grew up in. No! This is now a televangelist cult spectacle of disgusting proportions. My parents must be spinning in their graves.

Rolex wearing GB member stating Job lacked humility. SMFH!

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King of the North / South predictions

by Gorb in

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during my jw.org lifetime since 1970 (2008 we faded out of it all) i read and heared a lot of the king of the north and the south.. but about an aliance between the two kings, that was not a jw.org scenario, wasn't it?.

g..

WingCommander

My parents favourites were the "God's Kingdom of a 1000 Years, When?" and "Babylon the Great Has Fallen!"

They were referred to quite often during the weekly home Book Studies that were had at our house in the 80's.

Then, my all-time favourite came along: "Revelation: It's Grand Climax at Hand."

In it, we were told that the trumpet blasts of Revelation were foretelling the Bible Student conventions held in Sandusky, Ohio at Cedar Point fairgrounds in the 1920's by Judge Rutherford. Yep! Nearly a 100 years ago now, and I bet most younger JW's today know ZERO about those Conventions or the Millions campaign or the Children book that was released around that time as well. All "Old Light", right along with the Revelation book that is NEVER referenced anymore or studied. Man, that book was THE authority on deciphering Revelations, and now it's seen as an old oddity.

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Jehovah is going to hate this guy

by Riley in

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y4xqe60gyo?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us.

i have never been so convinced wts blood policy is evil and wrong.

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WingCommander

I'm sure the Gluttonous Bozos claim this guy was sent by Satan to deceive the only "True Christians on earth" the JW's of course.

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King of the North / South predictions

by Gorb in

jw
friends

during my jw.org lifetime since 1970 (2008 we faded out of it all) i read and heared a lot of the king of the north and the south.. but about an aliance between the two kings, that was not a jw.org scenario, wasn't it?.

g..

WingCommander

<<<< Child of the 80's here.

My Gawd......I remember the endless, mind-numbing speculation at every home bible study as to whom this was, when it was to happen, etc......thru countless books of the WatchTower Rainbow book series, which all went along with Fred Franz's "types and anti-types" made-up bullshit.

It was waste of my youth then, and it's a waste of my adult time now.

"No one knows the day or the hour, not even the Son, but only the Father."

BOOM. Done. That 1 verse puts it all to bed. It'll be over when it's over.

This verse really sums up the WatchTower cult to a "T":

Ecclesiastes 12:12-14 KJV. And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

The ENDLESS study of WatchTower literature is 1000% "Weariness of the flesh."

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Is Jesus a Created Being? Debate with a Pastor

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/ro6q_osgkns?si=hyxualluhruwvjnb.

—colossians 1:15 from the nwt says it plain as day: “he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation.” that’s not vague; it’s got a punch.

“firstborn” and “creation” sit side by side, and in greek, that second word is “ktisis,” which means the physical stuff—trees, stars, you name it.

WingCommander

Next Up:

Was the Easter Bunny born of a rabbit, or did he hatch from an egg?

Was the Easter Bunny the first to "taste the rainbow", or was it the silly Trix Rabbit?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

WingCommander

Yeah, that other thread stated that YouTuber "Owen Morgan (Telltale) has 400,000 subs, or roughly 4X the number El Chins has.

Ouch! That's gotta hurt.

Talk about circling the bowl....................lol