Posts by WingCommander

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Symposium outline from Curcuit Assembly Part 2

by billyboy in

for part 1 see http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200657/1/symposium-outline-for-circuit-assembly-part-1.

) [talk and demonstration.].

(lv 145 par.

WingCommander

" Because we worship Jehovah along with the chaste bride class of anointed ones, it is important that we recognize............"

^^^^^^^^^ Hey Look!! We have yet another "class" of Christians!!!! Disgusting. So much for being "One Flock."

They just can't help putting themselves right up there with Jehovah, can they? Notice that Jesus isn't even mentioned!! They have replaced Jesus with THEMSELVES!!!!! Gee, I seem to remember a verse somewhere in the bible where Jesus warned that false prophets would come after Him and do just that, place themselves in His place and beat the flock down, etc, etc. This describes the leadership of the JW's to a "T". Disgusting!!!!

This whole dress code after the assemblies/conventions thing is new to me, as is the name-tag issue. I stopped going to assemblies around 1999, and this wasn't in effect yet. I gotta say, this amount of control creeps me out on so many levels. Also, they are actually instructing brother to councel other people about their style of dress AFTER a convention? If a so-called "brother" did that to me I'd promptly tell him to F*ck off and mind his own damned business, Elder's be damned!!! What Pharisees!!!! As if telling the flock where they can and can't lodge wasn't bad enough, now they have to control how you dress?

Oh, and mental note to the Writing Department: This whole dressing as businessman REEKS of idolization of the "traveling merchannts of the land" - as in - WALL STREET. Duuuuuuuh!!!! It's like you are emmulating the very thing you are speaking against!!!! Dumbasses!!! Also, many, many, MANY people are turned off by seeing everyone dressed up in full formal attire. Talk about an uncomfortable enviroment. Churches actually draw people IN by NOT having a dress code!!! And guess what, 99% of "worldly" people don't go to church in Bermuda shorts!!! You need to pull your heads out of your asses and do away with the 1950's Leave it to Beaver mentallity, Knoor is dead - the 50's are over - so move on!!! You might actually manage to keep or even draw some people in. The only thing people associate you with by dressing the way you do is Mormonism!!! Hahahaha!!!

- Wing Commander

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First official shunning was AWESOME

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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we went to target this weekend to look at halloween costumes for the kiddos (and maybe me - i'm still a kid at heart).

my daughter and i were walking down a main aisle when an ex-friend - the very one who testified that i refused to discuss my doubts - came out of a side aisle and almost turned our direction.

we made eye contact and i gave him a nod as we continued to walk toward him.... but he stopped like he'd run into a brick wall, then turned and started walking with his back to us so that we didn't cross paths.. my daughter pipes up and says, "hey, daddy, isn't that [edit]??

WingCommander

^^^^^ Serin:

Well for starters, print off a copy of the new Elder's Manual from a source online. Read it. Then tell the Elder coming around that you have several issues concerning it, especially with the pedophiles, holidays, marking, etc, etc, and also that you'd like to discuss why the JW's were in bed with the UN as an NGO/DPI for nearly 10 years until they were caught red-handed by The Guardian and exposed. I'll be you $100.00....err.....100.00 pounds that you'll never hear back from the guy again.

Or, just tell them bugger off. Either way.

- Wing Commander

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First official shunning was AWESOME

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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we went to target this weekend to look at halloween costumes for the kiddos (and maybe me - i'm still a kid at heart).

my daughter and i were walking down a main aisle when an ex-friend - the very one who testified that i refused to discuss my doubts - came out of a side aisle and almost turned our direction.

we made eye contact and i gave him a nod as we continued to walk toward him.... but he stopped like he'd run into a brick wall, then turned and started walking with his back to us so that we didn't cross paths.. my daughter pipes up and says, "hey, daddy, isn't that [edit]??

WingCommander

^^^^ Blondie:

Wow.....that's a messed up story!!! It's ironic isn't it, in JW-Land, you are damned if you do, damned if you don't!!!! You can never be good enough, but if you try hard enough and appear perfect enough, then the other JW's become jealous and hateful towards you because they feel you are more righteous than they are!!!!! What a crazy way to live. Sad.

- Wing Commander

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THE Book

by Farkel in

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this is probably directed more to dubs who are having doubts than to ex-dubs, but it is still appropriate for both groups.

i'll only be offering my own personal opinion here, of course, but then again, i'm never wrong about anything.

well, i was wrong once; that was the time i thought i was wrong about something.. when it comes to definitive books which clearly expose the wts for what it really is, there is one which towers over all the others, and that book is 1984 by george orwell.

WingCommander

I gotta agree with you Farkel. 1984 is GOOD. The movie based upon the book made in the year 1984 is very dark and unsettling.

I also was led out by examining their very foundation, starting back with Russell. My parents came into the religion in the mid to late 1970's, and had studied with an older group of sisters that were probably originally Bible Students, however my parents had been exposed to JW beliefs their entire lives as their own parents accepted literature throughout the years at the door. Who can forget such classics as, "Babylon the Great Has Fallen!!!" I still have that book in my collection!!!!

I'll never forget what planted the first "What the f*ck" seed into my young mind. It was probably (ironically) around the year 1984. I was 5 years old, and I remember a series of WatchTowers dealing with Prophecy, The Generation of 1914, etc. That, and the "Live Forever" book. Anyway, I remember asking my father what signifigance the year 1914 had with the Bible, as it wasn't mentioned in the Bible. His answer? Some sort of confusing mumbling about 1914 having to be true because measurements made my Russell in the Great Pyramid of Giza measured out to 1914, confirming the date somehow. What - the - f*ck???? I didn't pursue it further at the time (Hey, I was not quite 5) but it sure stuck in my mind as to what a pagan pyramid had to do with inspired, biblical prophecy??? Not until 1999-2000 did I find the internet and started researching the JW history. Oh my!!! What a freaggin mess!!!! Any religion built about such pagan, occult, false religious BS for sure. Claiming it be "The Truth" is an insult to YHWH God and Jesus.

- Wing Commander

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A new (even more harmful) use of JWs literature

by behemot in

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family reeling from raging fire that followed burning of jehovah's witness pamphlet.

shelby they dont know whats going on, and neither do i.. modeling oversized work boots from a firefighter, lynn powell crunched through the remains of her nalley drive home to speak with her granddaughters, nevaeh young and j'mya ross.

powell knows innocence is bliss.. the two children played outside saturday, seemingly unaware of what transpired just a day before.

WingCommander

Daaaaamn!! She must have pissed off the wrong PioSneer Sister!!!

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My Life "Per Verse"

by LouBelle in

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since you are an extended family, be it on the net, it is always great to share news.. i have been and still am working on a poetry project.

over my life - so far 34 years, i've written about 300 poems or writings.

some are really good, some fair and i'm sure some are rather horrid.

WingCommander

That's a catchy title.......but my dirty mind immediately turned it around in my head to read,

" My Perverse Life" - Don't worry, that's real catchy as well, and might even help you sell more books!!! LOL!!!

- Wing Commander

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What's the deal with Facebook?

by serenitynow! in

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i mean what is so fun or interesting about facebook?

i am very new to it, i feel like i must be missing something.

it seems boring.

WingCommander

Facebook??

Facebook is from da Debil!!!!!

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Dealing with other versions of "the truth" ?

by man in black in

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my wife and i left the jw religion about two years ago.

my reason was seeing the non-existent "brotherly love" in action when my mom died.. her reason was much the same after seeing how cold the witnesses can be, but she felt that she had outgrown the witness belief system.. so she bacame a mormon !.

i have nothing to do with her beliefs, but once in a while i will attend a social gathering with her new friends.. personally, i am in a search mode, looking closely at the religion i was raised in before becoming a jw.. she on the other hand has no problem jumping from one mind controlling group over to another.. .

WingCommander

Yeah, I used to think JW beliefs were whacky, then I read up on Mormons and then Scientology. Nuts!!!!! Seriously, the JW beliefs are actually quite "tame" when compared to those other 2 cults.

It's quite funny though, we have a poster on here who's an X-Mormom and they post on here and another forum for X-Mormoms. They've stated many times how similar the stories are of treatment, history, beliefs, shunning, etc, etc are. It's like crossing into some sort of similar, but not quite the same parallel universe. Even some of the X-Mormon forums are set up like this one.

Weird to say the least, but it really solidifies the fact that these "American Cults" are so similar in tactics used, etc.

- Wing Commander

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"Do Not Forsake the Gathering of Yourselves..."

by AGuest in

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to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you have peace!.

very recently, another dear one asked me whether i attended church and when i responded that i do not attend, but i am the church... as are all of us who are "living stones" in the temple of god... the one responded and asked as to our lord's address to the seven congregations in his revelation to john, as well as the admonition stated at hebrews 10:25. unfortunately, neither of these support church attendance, as i shared with the one asking of me.. when our lord addressed the seven "congregations/churches" in his revelation to john, he was not addressing a literal congregation in, for example, laodecia.

if that were the case, (1) then no other congregations/churches were addressed but those seven and thus, the information is for none but those seven, which is unreasonable; (2) the congregations met in houses and thus there was more than one congregation/church in, say, ephesus.

WingCommander

OMFG, you're a total nutcase!!!!! ".....I AM the Church." Hahahahaha!!!!

NOTE TO ADMIN: Why is this delusional preaching allowed?? This person obviously is mentally unstable, yet nothing is done about it? Your inactions to ban this looney so-called "preaching" is merely seen by them as approval to keep it up. You are encouraging their psychosis!!!!!!

- Wing Commander

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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself

by carpediem in

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and i feel good!

it was a long time coming.

i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.

WingCommander

Are you a working woman??

Reason I ask, is that if he gives you any shit, you can just kick his ungrateful ass to the curb and continue on with life!!!!!

Better yet, make his life hell by telling him you are quite tired of you and the house chores coming in a distant second to the religion, and that as head of household he need to "take the lead" in such important issues as, cooking, cleaning, laundry, washing the cars, turning the beds, going to the grocery store, etc, etc. I would make his life so full of busy-work and house chores that he'd have no time or energy left for JW interests. Any complaining would result in my threats to leave his lazy, ungrateful ass.

People need to be put in their place, so don't let the JW's or HIM try and screw all over you. Ask him if THEY are going to come to the house and do all of the work??? That'll shut him up.

- Wing Commander