Posts by WingCommander

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JW Bethel Video - long version

by Esse quam videri in

listener gave a link to a short version.

not taking away from that post but here is a more complete version, 2 minutes longer.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs.

WingCommander

What the h*ll?!?!?!?! Now I've seen it all. I agree with above, there is NO WAY this was done in secret or by a few rogue young Bethel kids. Nope, this is pure PR propaganda going on here. I mean, it was filmed at ALL of the major locations of the WatchTower......the farm, Columbia Heights, Walkill, and even the brand new HeadQuarters and housing facilities. That's a totally inside job with permissions and access to everything and every building, with the full "blessings" from the top down. This was made to entice the unknowing youth to come slave away for the WT corporation for free during the best years of their lives building real estate holdings. We'll see how freakin' "Happy" these young people are in 30 years or so when they are all used up and worn out, and Bethel sends them packing with ZERO benefits, retirement funds, etc. Just a nice note to go back to their home congregations and "be warm and well fed."

How about asking those 1200+ Bethelites who were kicked out on their bums just a few short years ago how "Happy" they are all now? My ass!!!!!!!!

I also agree with above that a few short years ago this type of "worldly" behavior would have NEVER been tolerated. These kids would have been rounded up in JC's and the promptly shown the door. Can anyone imagine Knorr allowing this? Hahahahahahaha!! Very, very true that this religion resembles NOTHING of what I grew up in. Totally different "feel good" BS Cult where it's members wouldn't know how to defend anything using literature or Bible at the doors. PATHETIC! I'm pretty much having to pick my jaw up off the floor after seeing this "brazen" behavior so openly shown and promoted, and I'm only 35.....not 50, 60, 70.

- Wing Commander

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Remember Those in Full-Time Service (1945 - 2015)

by jwleaks in

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the saddest story ever told.

despite being childhood sweethearts, in the year 1941 they decided to postpone marriage and remain single and childless in this system so as to put the the theocracy first, albeit under the control of the watch tower society.. in the final pages of the children book john and eunice walk silently through the fields and stop by a great tree on the river bank where they had sometime before discussed their future plans.

the young lovers seat themselves down and look over the landscape.

WingCommander

This scenario is quite literally, "Hell on Earth." You are forbidden from doing exactly that which God proclaimed mankind to do from the beginning, "Go forth and fill the earth." Love, marriage, and children are blessings from God. Who in the hell was Da Judge Rutherford to "go beyond what is written" and basically forbid it?

Imagine, you are 80 or 90+ years old, and you were told back at these conventions that the "End" was right around the corner, any day now, etc. So you give up your life to slave away for this publishing/real estate CULT. No career.....your family proceeds you in death, and no new family to take it's place. No children or grandchildren. Then one day you wake up and you're old and tattered, penniless. And what does the WT do for you? Tells you to go forth, be warm, and well fed.....THEY can't take care of you because it's not THEIR responsibility. Oh no....you are to rely on your FAMILY and the loving Congregation (who couldn't care less if you aren't filling a seat) for your physical needs. I don't know if my brain could take the hypocrisy and feeling of being like a broke dead dog.......I think I'd have to commit suicide to escape the misery.

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Hi everyone, this is my first post.

by John Aquila in

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hey everyone, this is my first post.

i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..

it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.

WingCommander

Welcome. I totally would go back to where this Elder/Bethelite Tranny hangs out, and take photos of him from a distance with a camera that had a good lens on it. I'd make sure to get a shot of his entire body, with the face shown clearly. I'd then get 8x10's made of the best photo. I'd attend the next Circuit and/or District Assembly that he was speaking at. I would go into every men's bathroom and into every stall, I would tape the photo up inside the door. I would sneak other 5x7 photo's into the WatchTower's that were left un-attended at people's chairs. I'd slip wallet-sized photo's into each contribution box, with this guy's name printed on the back. This hypocritical douchebag would be in a JC before the end of the Assembly/Convention. I'd then set up an anonymous email account, and forward the photo along with description to every JW email address I had, as well as WatchTower Headquarters Service Desk.

This hypocritical scumbag has probably ruined countless lives while sitting on JC judging others. He's needs to have it turned around on HIM. What is he going to say? How is he going to blame YOU? How would anyone believe a word he would say after seeing the photos? The best photo of course would involve him dressed like that looking "flirty" with another man. Hahahahahaha!!!

I'm amazed this guy had the BALLS to look you over and basically threaten to "turn you in" (for what, buying beer?) while he is standing there dressed as a Tranny? I would knocked that c*cksucker right out of his high-heeled stiletto's for even making the implication. Then I would have taken a photo of his dumb azz laying on the ground as evidence of his activities, went before the Elder Body, and claimed that he was trying to proposition you and that you decked him out of disgust. Enter camera phone photo. Instant DF for this bozo!!!

- Wing Commander

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Surprise ! Surprise ! 2015 Arrives and NO Armageddon or World's " End " - Go Figure

by flipper in

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i guess 99.9 % of ex-jw's here could have predicted as much .

armageddon didn't happen in 1914. it didn't happen in 1925. it didn't happen in 1975. and it did not happen in 2014. since the wt society first predicted a world's end when their organization started in 1879 - 126 years have passed which according to any dictionary in any human language 126 years comprises of 4 separate generations each totaling 30 years each.

plus 6 years into a 5th generation.

WingCommander

BluesBrother said:

Well here we are , halfway through the second decade of the 21st century - and still the "old world" carries on. Would you have believed it if ,like me, you were a small youngster in "it" in the '60's?

Impossible ! "The Kingdom" was more real to us than anything of this world. I would never have accepted that this would be the outcome - but it is !

I was a youngster in the 1980's, and am now 35 yrs old! I too cannot even fathom that we are past the year 2000, much less 2014! The constant bombardment from the cradle on up was that the New System would be here before I even got to high school, surely before I graduated! (I did, in 1997) My son is 10, and I'm so glad I never filled his head with this end-of-world apocalyptic fear-mongering garbage!

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Money changers in the temple, much?

by marmot in

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i'm still on an old mailing list and got this recently "encouraging" me to make the pilgrimmage to mecca...i mean...bethel.

kinda sad really.

i have nothing against the people who run the business, they're just trying to make a buck, but i'm soooo glad i'm out of that boring cult.. did you see the governing body's invitation?

WingCommander

Have I mentioned lately how utterly repulsed I am, to see what the religion of my youth (1980's) has "evolved" into? It is truly unrecognizeable. This type of self-agrandizing, shameless money grubbing, and showy display (HQ's and branches look incredible!) would have never flown in the old hard-liner religion of the 1980's. What an incredible sight to behold! They have truly gotten some outside PR firm to cook this sh*t up, cause I don't believe even they could promote themselves in such a fashion. Mormonism better watch out! Wait, who I am kidding? Mormons actually have schools and take care of their own, haha!!

That Caleb video is pure youth-indoctrination. Russia or North Koreans would be proud of this propoganda garbage. Wow!

- Wing Commander

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JW.bore invades my vacation?!?

by darth frosty in

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just got back from a cruise and dubs were walking around the boat faithfully wearing their jw.bore pins smdh.

than at cozumel i saw these lovely sisters.

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WingCommander

Question: Are the women in the photo with the JW set-up, were they local JW's, or did they get off the cruise ship and set it up?

Reason I ask is simple, and think about this con!!!! You are a JW. You go on a cruise as a nice vacation. So what do you do? You wear your stupid JW.org pin on your clothing the whole trip. Then, at ports of call you drag out this literature cart and set it up on your way out for the day for your excursions. At the end of the day, you pack it back up into it's wheeled dolly and get back on the ship and leave. Now get this.....you count the ENTIRE trip, the ENTIRE vacation, as "Field Service Time" because you were "representing Jehovah." And if anyone was gullible enough to take any of the tracts you had sitting out, well then you get to count placements too.....for doing absolutely NOTHING!

^^^ That right there, would be pure genius. And honestly, I think that might be what happened cause I remember you said they were on the ship wearing their pins. UGH!!! Probably drinking booze like water too while wearing the pins! Ha!

I've been to Cozumel and took the 2.5 hr bus ride into Chitzen Itza and visited the ruins for a day.

- Wing Commander

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local needs "are you spiritually grown up?"

by sylvlef in

yesterday local needs was this theme.

are you spiritually grown up.. summary: if you are between 18-35 and not ms or elder, you lazy idiot are like a child.

at this age, especially if you grew up in "da trooooth" you have no issue with jw.org doctrine right (how do you know...?

WingCommander

"The beatings will continue until morale improves."

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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!

by raymond frantz in

aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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WingCommander

Jesus didn't go "undercover" to point out the hypocrisy and injustices of the Temple Scribes and Pharisees of His day, did He? Didn't he actually go and turn tables up on them? That would have been very bold and forward at that time I would think. He wasn't all covert. Why then, should all of us be hiding under a rock? If this guy wants to up and enter a Kingdom Hall and turn tables on these Neo-Pharisees, I say let him do it. Maybe a few will think, "Gee.....if this guy has nothing of merit to say and it isn't true, why are the Elders trying to shut him up?"

- Wing Commander

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Joined 11/29/2002

by lisavegas420 in

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yep, i joined 12 years ago today.

just thought i'd do a drive by and a shout out.

i'm still happy to be free.

WingCommander

I'd take that photo and make it my FB profile picture, just to piss off my "former" family. Cause I tell you, any parents that would treat me the way your parents have treated you, sure as h*ll wouldn't be called "family" to me. They would be called "crazy cruel cultists" that I would never want to see again.

Instead of weeping for what could of been, you should pat yourself on the back for getting your family away from such toxic individuals....because that's exactly what they are - TOXIC.

Dad's in the hospital? He's had a stroke? They are all sad and regretful? Well now, I guess they've reaped what they've sewn. Let the fine loving Congregation full of their "spiritual brothers and sisters" come visit them in the nursing home and wipe their azzes. Ha! (like that's ever going to happen!) After all, that's what the WT has continually piped into their brains, that YOU are DEAD, and that the Congregation is their family, right?

I feel for you and your situation, but not for the people who have inflicted so much pain upon you. Concentrate on your current family who actually treat you as such, and forget about the people who tossed you out like trash over 25 years ago.

- Wing Commander

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A LETTER FROM MY MOTHER...since learning TTATT

by Blackfalcon98 in

so ive recently: joined the forum, read cofc, began reading combating cult mind control.....and today i gotta letter from my mother.

i thought i'd share it with others so that i can gain some hidden insight, and perhaps just to encourage someone else here who has relatives who are still mentally locked in.

dear blackfalcon98.

WingCommander

Wait, this letter was all caused because of no-shave Movember? WTF?????

What a CULT. If crap like this doesn't prove it's a high-control group and uncaring CULT, I don't know what does.

Can't even support a different charity for a month? What a bunch of money-grubbing morons. I still can't get over some of shallow-mindedness I/we were all subjected to.

Let's review: It's a CULT!

- Wing Commander