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  What Books Have You Read That Been Critical Of The Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by The Bethelite in

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  please rate your top choices .

  1. crises of conscience.

  ray franz.

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  Apocalypse Delayed, by James Penton

  Crisis of Conscious, by Raymond Franz, then ISOCF.
  
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  Happy Alcoholic Jehovah's Witnesses

  by The Bethelite in

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  for many years since the witness organization, after i have told people that i'm no longer a jehovah's witness, people would say "oh the religion were people are not allowed to drink!".

  "no they drink alright.....they can't do much of anything else but they do drink!".

  in fact the first place i ever got drunk was bethel.

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  Back in the 80's in the Congregation I grew up in, there was a nice older fellow named "Jimmy." Jimmy was married, had grown children, etc. Sweet guy. Except after he hit the bottle, he then became mean he hit his wife! And THAT is the reason he was DF'd repeatedly, abusing his wife. He always felt horrible about it afterwards, and his wife always took him back. I mean, he was black-out drunk and mean, and couldn't remember shit!

  What was the Elduh's answer to all this? Therapy with a professional? AA Meetings? NOPE! Disfellowship him repeatedly and make him depressed and cause him to drink more!

  I met up with Jimmy several years ago as he worked as a greeter for BJ's Wholesale Club. He looked the same, and he confessed he had finally been sober for many, many years! (I think 10+ at that time) He was still a JW though (Sadly) and his wife passed away a few years later. I believe ALL of his children are LONG since out of the JW cult. He was a kind soul to me, and I'm truly glad he finally got the help he needed to overcome his addiction. Now, if he could only escape this fuggin' cult!
  
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  Hats Off To Simon

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  huge round of applause for simon (not every hero wears a cape).

  this is to say a huge big thank you,tons of appreciation and gratitude from me for simon for toiling away on his own dime for 20 years or so and keeping this site up and running .

  surely this site has helped tons of jdumbs n exjdumbs in their search for ttatt and freedom.

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  I''ll also jump in to say thanks. This is the first "Board" of any kind I had ever posted on, starting waaaaay back in the summer of 2002! Thanks for all of your hard work.
  
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  Rec'd a letter from my Dad - need some advice...

  by Fadeaway3pointer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  fader here - last meeting was in autumn 2005. lurker on this site and others.

  not one to get all controversial.. typical situation, pretty much a born in and left the church at age 38 and never looked back.. i'm 53 now, parents getting older - late 70s but very active, dad is still an elder.. parents, in laws, brother and brother-in-law still uber active jws.. my family (wife and 2 adult children) out since 2005.. we have stayed close to our parents - we have treaded religion lightly and have had a pretty good relationship and have kept our personal lives and beliefs/opinions separated from them.

  this was intentional - as we love them and do not want anything to cause shunning since they are getting older and want to be there for them and we respect their beliefs.. got this letter today.

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  Dear Aging Sperm Donour,

  Hello! Thanks for your message filled with emotional and spiritual blackmail! Always a pleasure to see how truly brainwashed by an man-made cult you are! Have no worry, we will honour your request. In fact, in the near future when you require someone to change your diapers and spoon-feed you, please contact your SPIRITUAL FAMILY via the Elduhz, and not us. After all, Jehovah provides!!!! Go forth, be warm, and well fed.

  Agape!

  Your disinterested unbrainwashed Son.
  
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  147th Gilead prt. 3 - this could stumble people

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  during gerrit loesch's talk just released, he goes on a long list of the false end times predictions throughout the millennia.

  i didn't expect it, but then he goes into the precursors to the bible students who, when their dates failed, changed christ's presence to have happened 'invisibly'.

  then it goes right into the jws, and he reads the quote from millions now living will never die about how we can 'confidently expect' the resurrection in 1925, and then the life everlasting book that predicted 1975. of course, he doesn't say how it's still going on, namely with the overlapping generation and its' accompanying convoluted chart, but still, this is more than they've ever said on the subject, especially recently.. it almost sounds like a forced statement, to address any backlash from people reading 'apostate lies' online, because he also says how the gb 'humbly' admitted mistakes, referencing the non-apology after 1975 that disturbed raymond franz.

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  The cracks are expanding. Remember, they are re-active, not pro-active. The internet has them scared shitless. There can be no doubt about it now. How happifying.
  
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  My BPD Sister Passed Away

  by babygirl30 in

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  i have started this, then restarted it, and it still sucks to even write this out - but my younger sister passed away unexpectedly last saturday (on my birthday).

  i am going through all the grieving emotions, but there is more to the story that i could never and would never talk about to anyone that didn't understand the jw rhetoric.

  so...here i am.. my sister has had borderline personality disorder (bpd) for as long as i can remember.

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  Um, your sis wasn't merely BPD, she was a raging, controlling, manipulative, Narcissist! Worse still, your parents were enablers of her bad behaviour, as she was the "Golden Child" and you were the "Scapegoat."

  You need to re-read what you wrote about how this sack of human shit treated you. Yeah, I said that!! You may not believe it now, but in a short time, you will feel nothing but RELIEF that this toxic abuser is out of your life! No more stupid bullshit! No more stalking! Your ungrateful, cruel parents would be the last people I'd talk to.

  10 years ago, you should have gone "No Contact" and been done with the whole lot of them. You sound like a much better person without them in your life.

  Wish I could say I was sorry for your loss, but I'm not! I'm grateful you are now FREE, and someday soon you will be too. When that happens, don't feel guilty about it. It's 100% justified to feel relief. There's nothing wrong with YOU, but there is definitely something wrong with THEM!

  Good Luck. Welcome to the rest of your life!
  
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  De Niro Wants To See A Bag of Sh*t On Trump’s Face

  by minimus in

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  has this guy lost it?

  who thinks like that?.

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  DeNiro also claims that vaccinations cause Autism, which has 100% been proven to be false.

  DeNiro: Great actor, shitty scientist, doctor, and politician.
  
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  FlyingHighNow

  by Ex-Witless in

  1. jw
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  hello forum.

  my aunt, flyinghighnow, has passed away.

  i don't know if you remember her, but she was a long time member.

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  Noooooooooooooooooooo!! I remember her very fondly!! She was on here for many years, and I enjoyed all of her posts. I am so saddened to hear of her passing. Please accept my condolences and may she RIP. She was a kind soul.
  
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  JW.org greater than the Bible now

  by eyeslice2 in

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  there was a time when brooklyn bethel was emblazoned with the words; "read god's word the bible daily" but it seems to me now that even the bible has taken second place to jw.org.

  i remember having lots of studies using the 'truth' book.

  we asked the students in those days to prepare well and look up the scriptures in their own copy of the bible.

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  The stupid......it burns.........it BURNS!!!!!
  
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  Not training speakers/teachers any more?

  by eyeslice2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not having attended any meetings since about 2001, for reasons of safety (sounds a bit dramatic but i don't like my wife being out on her own late at night where we live now), i have started accompanying her to the mid-week meeting.. when i was young, the ministry school and service meeting were central to training brothers to take the lead.

  you were assigned instruction talks, then if you cut it, you moved pretty rapidly to public talks - a full 55 mins at the time.

  i was just 18 years old when i gave my first public talk and this was a first step to moving rapidly through the ranks.

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  Cults don't need educated individuals with critical thinking skills, NOPE!!! They need OBEDIENT WORKERS. People just smart enough to be functionally literate and to operate a cart, an iPad, and to be able to present a business card at the door, and yet dumb enough to keep getting bent over week after week, month after month, year after year, and buggered in the ass while simultaneously having their pockets picked. Afterwards, these "Sheeple" pull up their pants and dresses and ask, "Oh please Governing Body OverLords, may we have some more? Please Sir, some more?"

  This is what the JW cult has been reduced to.

  If you want a clearer analogy think of it this way:

  Picture Tony Morris da Turd as a militant Drag Queen wearing his Vietnam era issued combat boots.

  Now picture him standing over a Sheeple laying out bare on the ground, sheered down to it's skin, cold, shivering, hungry. The Sheeple is blaaaa-ing in misery. Now picture militant Drag Tony stomping on the Sheeple's face, over and over again, forever, with a Scotch in one hand and a fistful of money in the other, all the while grinning like Satan himself.

  Now you see how this cult operates.