Yizuman
Yizuman
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Believe It Or Not
by WildTurkey ina cockroach will live nine days without its head, before it starves to death.
a crocodile cannot stick its tongue out.
a pig's orgasm lasts for 30 minutes.
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Family says police killed dog for no reason
by Yizuman in.
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not a jw story, but nonetheless it made me sick when this came out this week.. yizuman.
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I like to point out some wrongs that happened from the get go.
First the caller calls 911 and reports money flying out of the car, the dispacher ASSUMED there had been a robbery. The dispacher was at the wrong for assuming without obtaining facts.
Here's what I would have done, I would relay the call to say there had been money that flew out of the car, I would NOT ASSUMED that there had been a robbery. What happened there made the situations even worse than what it appeared to be.
The officer who made the felony stop, plus 5 other cops who arrived as back ups were all in the wrong.
One thing they did right was they had to handcuff the occupants to secure the situation, too many cops have been shot dead for not securing the individuals for their safety as well as the occupant's safety.
But there's one problem. The officers were already told of the dog that was in the car, the family asked the officer to shut the car door. They should have done that. Shut the door and call animal control. Let the animal control take control of the dogs. Then the officers can be free to search the vehicle. The officer and occupant both will have to exercise self control and patience to wait for animal control. I know both sides wants this to be over with, so they all can move on. But patience is the key so that no one gets hurt.
Now, the shooting is what made me sick. Here's the facts.
3 seconds after the dog jumped out of the vehicle, the dog was shot dead.
I'm talking like this....
1/1000sec - dog hops out of the vehicle
2/1000sec - dog twirls around and finally sees the officer
3/1000sec - dog approaches the officer with it's tail wagging.
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!
The dog is shot by a shotgun, not once, but 3 TIMES! How big of a hole does the dog have to have in order to be considered dead?? This is OVERKILL! This proves to me that the officer wanted to kill the dog. He ignore the family's plea to have the car door shut. The number of seconds from when the dog got out of the vehicle to the number of shots the dog received tells me that the officer was WAITING for the dog to come out and have a excuse to get a boner for killing a animal. He THINKS he has an perfect excuse to kill something and he THINKS he was in a perfect situation to finally shoot something living and get away with it.
Some poster said this is not his first time he has killed a dog, he has done this 2 other times before.
The officer in question already had a back-up of 5 officers, he could have easily allowed the dog to approach the officer as a test and the back up officer have their guns cocked and ready if the dog starts to BITE him, the dog is dead in mere seconds. The officer was covered.
If the officer did not want the dog to approach him, use a mace spray instead of killing it. Mace is very effective against a dog. All officers are equipted with a mace spray, they have it for a reason, USE IT!
The video of the felony stop did not show to me that the dog was barking at the officer, it did not snarl at him, he did not assumed the attack position by going into the run position in order to jump the officer. The officer would have clearly seen this from the get go that this was a friendly dog. No, he didn't give a crap, he wanted ACTION! He wanted BLOOD! and he got what he wanted. I hope he's happy!
I also hope he's happy with the fact that the family was devistated by the shooting. That dog was a 16th birthday gift to their son. He's 18 now. If you have seen the video, according to the transcript that I read since I can't hear the video, it was said that they all screamed when the dog was shot and killed. The father jumped up screaming, "OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! YOU SHOT MY DOG! YOU SHOT MY DOG! WHY DID YOU DO IT?? OH MY GOD!" The officers grabbed him and plastered him back on the ground. There was alot of screaming and crying in the video.
But I can guarantee you that the officer will be terminated, if he doesn't resign first.
The Govenor clearly saw the video, he knew the officer was wrong and he has already issued an apology to the media.
The family is going to sue, the Govenor will have no choice but to settle the case.
By the way, I wonder how the caller who called 911 feels about this whole situation now? I bet the caller will never dial 911 ever again after seeing this on the news.
Yizuman
Edited by - Yizuman on 12 January 2003 15:18:26
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Friction between us
by JH inhow do you react when a person makes fun of your posts on this site?
maybe it never happened to you, but for those that this happened, how do you react when a person seems to be doing on purpose to put you down for what you said or just say the opposite of what you're saying?
do you forgive, or do you hate a few people on this site?
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How do you react when a person makes fun of your posts on this site? Maybe it never happened to you, but for those that this happened, how do you react when a person seems to be doing on purpose to put you down for what you said or just say the opposite of what you're saying? Do you forgive, or do you hate a few people on this site?
I got some folks who make fun of me and put down what I say on this forum. Those who is reading it KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!
I won't forgive them ever and I sure do hate them.
Yizuman
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Jesika
by pr_capone injust wanted to let you know that without warining my phone ran out of long distance minutes.
i will try to give you a call when i get back from florida.
sorrry!!!!!!
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hey Jes, you got mail!
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(((((((((SHYTEARS)))))))))))))))
So sorry to hear all of that.
Yizuman
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Family says police killed dog for no reason
by Yizuman in.
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not a jw story, but nonetheless it made me sick when this came out this week.. yizuman.
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One of the things they do on felony stops, is to check the interior of the car for contraband, weapons, etc. It's extremely difficult to secure the scene when you have a family plus dogs to contend with...
Look, there are better ways to handle family dogs...here's what I would do.
Shut the door...
Call an animal handler specialist to take control of the dogs, then search the car afterwards.
The dog remained in the car for a good amount of time and the cops had plenty of time to get that car door shut. The father asked the cops to shut the door so they would not get out, they ignored him. So instead, it seemed to me that the cop wanted the dogs to come out so they can have something to target practice on.
I don't care how long it takes to get an animal specialist to get there to take control of the dogs, better to have them under control than to kill them and regret it later after the felony stop turned out to be nothing.
Yizuman
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Family says police killed dog for no reason
by Yizuman in.
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not a jw story, but nonetheless it made me sick when this came out this week.. yizuman.
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The dog is not menacing in anyway shape or form, he playfully bounces toward the police officer , who then shoots him in the head at least three times with his shotgun. Another officer has his weapon drawn ready to shoot the poor dog as well.
This is so sickening, I cannot believe what that cop did.
That cop has already gotten death threats from all sorts of people everywhere.
He's easily found on the website with his full name, work number etc.
When I first saw this story at fark.com, someone posted his full name, address, phone number, work number, everything on the comments section and then I see on the news later he told reporters he's gotten death threats already, some came from overseas who saw the story.
I think the police chief will have to let him go on account of the bad publicity the town has gotten based on his actions and I also think the cops needs to be retrained as well.
Most of the cops who was in on it should be suspended w/o pay for a duration of time and retrained before they're allowed back on the streets.
Yizuman
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Family says police killed dog for no reason
by Yizuman in.
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not a jw story, but nonetheless it made me sick when this came out this week.. yizuman.
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"Unfortunately, during the THP's process of gaining control of the situation, a very rare thing occurred. The Smoaks had been traveling with family dogs, and one of them got loose. It appeared to be a pit bull, and as it exited the car, it clearly approached one of our officers in a threatening manner. Our officer first tried to call the dog down, but after it kept approaching aggressively and started to circle him, the officer took the only action he could to protect himself and gain control of the situation.
According to the video, the dog was killed 3 seconds after it got out of the car. From what the cop says happened from point A to point B, he's making it sound that it took longer than 3 seconds. So, there's some bull (no pun intended) going on with the cop's story.
If you see the video, the dog hopped out of the car with it's tail wagging that clearly shows non-agression and was acting very friendly towards the cop and the cop paid his friendly advances by killing it.
All in 3 SECONDS flat.
The cop was in the wrong and he should be fired for it.
Why couldn't they just close the car door and leave it at that?
This is indicating to me the cop was looking for some action and he was waiting for the dog to come out so he can have a fun target to shoot at.
Yizuman
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Family says police killed dog for no reason
by Yizuman in.
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not a jw story, but nonetheless it made me sick when this came out this week.. yizuman.
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Here's all the following links I found that may help you get a better picture of what happened.
Police Shoot Family's Dog During Stop
http://www.austin360.com/aas/news/ap/ap_story.html/National/AP.V1236.AP-Dog-Shot.htmlPolice Shoot Family's Pet Dog During Mistaken Stop (With Video)
http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/news-187947320030109-110148.htmlLawsuit Planned After Police Shoot Dog
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030109_2286.htmlPolice Shoot Family's Dog During Stop
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-dog-shot0109jan08,0,4736079.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlinesDog's blood stains city's name
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/state/article/0,1406,KNS_348_1666555,00.htmlLawsuit likely in dog's death
http://newsobserver.com/news/story/2087617p-1994567c.htmlOne final piece
Governor apologizes to family for dog shooting
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/01/10/dog.shot.ap/index.htmlHope this helps clear up any confusion.
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Family says police killed dog for no reason
by Yizuman in.
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not a jw story, but nonetheless it made me sick when this came out this week.. yizuman.
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What's missing is that over 400 dollars flew out of the wallet and the motorist called the police stating that money flew out of the car as they pulled out of the gas station.
So the motorist saw all the money flying around the road, so the motorist called 911 on the cell phone and I dunno what happened exactly during that time since the news wasn't very pacific about it. But somewhere along the line, the cops was told a robbery had occured.
But nonetheless, the cop who killed the dog, according to the videotape of the incident, it took the cop exactly 3 seconds to kill the dog right after the dog jumped out of the war and approached the cop while wagging his tail. The cop shot the dog it's in face with his shotgun at point blank range, killing the dog instantly.
Gonna look for more links on the story...
Yizuman