Didn't Jesus say it was due to their "hardheadedness" that God allowed this?
Are you "hardheaded" Gumby?
confusedjw
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I'm gettin me a couple more wives!
by gumby ini figure since jehovah had no problem with the faithful men of old having more than one wife, he wouldn't mind if i got me a couple more and won't kick my arse at armageddon.
polygamy was practised without criticism in the old testament.
in fact, it was regulated by law.
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Can JWs Work on School Yearbook and Newspaper?
by blondie inhttp://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20041104/news04/411040351/-1/news
article published thursday, november 4, 2004 .
student of the week: jennifer kunz .
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confusedjw
You would think that could be an extension of her "own special territory"
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I called a so called friend today and told her I was leaving the truth
by Tim Horton inshe asked me how she could help?
i said it was too late!
i was tired of being mistreated in the truth.
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confusedjw
I've read about the marriage troubles which are upsetting and now this.
Can I just say that when in turmoil one shouldn't make big decisions? Am I suggesting staying at the Hall, no! But calling an telling people you are leaving. What is the point?
I would get through one thing and then the other. Just my opinion based on what I've read from you.
Hoping the best for you.
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How about having a cocktail with me???
by codeblue in.
yeapers, it is almost 5 pm.... i just mixed a screwdriver...... come on over and join me!!!!!!!!
codeblue
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confusedjw
My first drink as a too young lad was vodka and root beer. To this day I can't drink that.
So I'd have a Jim Beam and ginger ale, or a Tanqueray and Tonic, or almost any beer.
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World War 1 and 1914
by Schizm in.
how did it just so happen that a world war took place in the very year that russell had attached so much importance to?
i realize that he expected 1914 to see the end of the world's governments, and of course that didn't happen, but it still seems to be quite remarkable that this war happened that very year ... a war that would later be construed to be the fulfillment of jesus' prediction in matthew 24:7.. the explanation given on the e-watchman site is that satan deliberately caused the war to happen so as to mislead jehovah's witnesses into thinking they had actually seen the fulfillment of bible prophecy, in order to make them think that jesus had returned invisably.. any ideas?.
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confusedjw
This was really helpful to me. If 607 isn't correct than nothing is.
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World War 1 and 1914
by Schizm in.
how did it just so happen that a world war took place in the very year that russell had attached so much importance to?
i realize that he expected 1914 to see the end of the world's governments, and of course that didn't happen, but it still seems to be quite remarkable that this war happened that very year ... a war that would later be construed to be the fulfillment of jesus' prediction in matthew 24:7.. the explanation given on the e-watchman site is that satan deliberately caused the war to happen so as to mislead jehovah's witnesses into thinking they had actually seen the fulfillment of bible prophecy, in order to make them think that jesus had returned invisably.. any ideas?.
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confusedjw
The 1914/WWI thing might be striking if Russell and Friends had prophesied that it would happen, or even simply that "something big" was going to happen. But they prophesied that the end would come, they'd go to heaven, the whole shmeer. That didn't happen. Something else did.
BINGO!
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Does Satan the Devil enter your mind at all?
by undercover ini'm feeling very minimus like today...i thought we could have some fun with this one...
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confusedjw
Not my mind and God almost never either.
For me it's family, work, baseball, hockey, our dog and friends.
That's it, that's the list - and hope for the best when it's over.
(cause if I do get thinking of any of this I get into a tail spin over no more new system - which I wanted really badly so I could forever have family, work, baseball, hockey, a family dog and friends)
But thanks for asking.
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So much for "fading"... we're out!
by AlmostAtheist ingina just got off the phone with her mom.
we were tired of lying to these otherwise nice people, not to mention disinfecting the car of all "worldly" paraphenalia, and fearing the inevitable "pop-in" visit while holiday decorations are up.
she felt bad about it, and so did i. but now it's over.
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confusedjw
Her mom has already decided to shun us for having spoken to another disfellowshipped person, and she'll be talking to her elders.
Does this sound more like something from the Bible or the movie "The Firm"?
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Elder told me Voting was a conscience matter
by confusedjw inspeaking with an elder this weekend and the subject of voting came up (we were talking about things changing) and he pointed to the matter of voting.
he said it was a matter of conscience.
(previously he and i have had very very in depth discussions on my new take of the wtbts).
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confusedjw
Live with their conscience? Apparently only one had a conscience, Ray. Megalomaniacs. God Complex. It is beyond my understanding as it seems to them this is a club. "Follow our rules or you can't see you family again" And this is perceived as loyalty to God.
So I voted this morning. An elder said I could.
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My daughter and granddaughter.
by kat2u inthis may be a bit long,,, sorry,.
my daughter t was born when i was a married witness,i was almost 21.she was a very sweet outgoing loving child.when she was 4 i had another daughter s .
lol this one was my challenge when she was little but is now such a joy to me.. anyway t began school at 5 and seemed to be doing well with school and her friends.. just about a month after she began 1st grade we had stopped to eat lunch while out in service.t suddenly made a strange noise she looked off into space with a strange stare and wouldnt respond to anything we said or did.i was in a panic by the time she began talking again and told us that she heard us but couldnt answer us at that point.demons?was my first thought but as i began to ask her about it then i began to feel she had had a small seizure.
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confusedjw
I think that the worst part of stories like this is how powerless a person is and feels to reach their family still in the JW's. The frustration becomes almost unbearable as it is nothing more a hostage situation. "Either come back and be a JW or you will never see your family again" - says God. Execpt God is the man behind the curtain.
Kate, this must have been tough to write and horrible to live through. I'm sorry. I wish your daughter could know and enjoy the unconditional love you have for her and that because of your Motherly Don't Mess with My Child love she is alive. That you did what your heart told you and got your child well. That you fought for her and won.
I'm sorry it turned out shitty, but you did the right thing, are doing the right thing by letting her know of your continued love. I feel upset for you and pissed off and angry. This "do what the man behind the curtain says or never see your family again" thing is really getting to me.