I have met several Ex-Mormons who are devoted to exposing that religion, and from what they tell me, the Mormons aren't nearly as bad as the JW's when it comes to shunning, dishonest recruiting practices, etc etc. About the only negative thing I could come up with is they can't drink coffee or soft drinks. They do have a whacky doctrine, but given a choice, if I could go back and pick my childhood religion, I would choose Mormon any day!
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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.
by Qcmbr inever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.
to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.
you can only paint sh*t so many ways.
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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!
by snakeface inyes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.
well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.
even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.
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Hey Snakeface, I wholeheartedly support your efforts, and if I had some extra money right now, I would send it to you to help out. Keep up the good work! I wish there had been more people around like you when I was growing up, and I could have learned TTAT much earlier and worked to correct those lies in my life. Good Job!
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What laws are on your side (in the U.S.) so you can leave quietly
by oppostate inin another topic "just quit quietly - the law is on your side" there was a lot of discussion about how to leave quietly without getting tagged publicly as "no longer a jw".
here are some legal cases that could be used to show support for leaving quietly.. you have to first send a letter saying you're leaving that specific congregation, and that you don't want them to keep records of you.. if the boe says anything against you here are some court cases that make precedent for bringing a suit against them:.
baugh v. thomas (1970).
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Can someone ask to be removed from a particular congregation without actually disassociating from the whole organization? If someone can find a way to do this, then perhaps they can find a loophole to leave without actually getting tagged as such, thereby there would be no institutionally enforced shunning by the family.
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life after the wtbts
by Hortensia inyou can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.
yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.
move on.
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The simple answer is helping others by exposing the lies, it takes dedicated people to do this. One can leave this Cult and move on with their lives and try to forget all about it, or they can help others escape it. I am thankful there were those people who took the time to expose this religion, every little post, every little thing helps in one way or another.
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Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.
by kneehighmiah inthe difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.
but i would say it's hard for brothers also.
i was talking to a jw last night.
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I went to a convention this year (incognito), just checking things out and seeing the layout of the facility for future pickets, and what amazed me is all of the single women that kept trying to talk to me. I don't ever remember this growing up, because as i said earlier they were always aloof, and even if they were interested, it was like they had to pretend they weren't. Everywhere I wandered around that facility, some single JW woman kept trying to strike up conversations with me, most were decent looking, a few were a little older than me, but they were very classy types, women I would talk to in real life, if they weren't JW. I told my brother this was just the Devil trying to work on me, he laughed, but agreed.
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Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.
by kneehighmiah inthe difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.
but i would say it's hard for brothers also.
i was talking to a jw last night.
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physical attractiveness may not be the be all/end all, but it is definitely important. Most JW single women were snobby and aloof, and they were all about the religion and power, they wanted to marry the elders, the "spiritually elite". They were materialistic, and looks didn't matter as much to them as money and prestige in the organization--no wonder their marriages failed.
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Article "How Mormons Will Come to Accept Homosexuality" - roadmap for JWs?
by sir82 incheck out this article:.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2014/11/mormons_will_accept_homosexuality_mormon_church_leaders_use_revelation_to.html.
it gives a history of how some mormon doctrine has changed over the years.. any of this sound familiar?.
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I actually don't see the WT fighting this in court--for if they did, that would put them alongside bible believing churches in doctrinal matters. I see them embracing it in the future, and for that they will grow. They are a self preservation cult, and as they have proved in the past they are willing to compromise their beliefs when it suits them financially--just think Mexico vs. Malawi, UN, etc etc. This is the one hot button issue that the media loves to embroil itself in--just think about it, all the things the WT has done--forbidding blood transfusions, denying children a normal upbringing, denying all holidays, ruining families and lives--yet the media could care less, but if they stand against gay marriage, they will face the wrath of the liberal media and the world--and their membership would falter. They will adapt, if ever so slowly!
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Article "How Mormons Will Come to Accept Homosexuality" - roadmap for JWs?
by sir82 incheck out this article:.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2014/11/mormons_will_accept_homosexuality_mormon_church_leaders_use_revelation_to.html.
it gives a history of how some mormon doctrine has changed over the years.. any of this sound familiar?.
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You bet they will someday! All they have to do is use the same twisted reasoning they use for their doctrines and apply it to that--and bingo they will change it. I have no doubt they will have new light.
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Are there ANY mind-controlling cults that DON'T hate gays???
by NAVYTOWN inplease help me with this: can you think of a single mind-controlling cult that isn't anti-gay???
it seems to me that virtually all such groups preach against homosexuality.
jws.....mormons....moonies.....jim jones.....david koresh.....the catholic church.....radical islam.....russian orthodox church......scientology......lyndon larouche...to name just a few.
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How about the cult of liberal christianity? There are several groups and movements out there that can twist and butcher the bible to fit their doctrines, almost as well as the Watchtower.
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Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$
by oneyeopen ino.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.
coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.
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I don't believe they should less rights than anyone else, I believe everyone should have rights.