i was just starting to think, they removed religion from schools and public areas and jobs.
whats next?
the removal of everyone who believes in god or some high power?
Deputy, I do not mean to be offensive, but why limit God to the little character in the Bible? Why not expand him that he include evolution and science. Why subtract rather than augment?
It seems to me disrespectful to reduce in any way the Source of an infinite universe. But then, I'm not a Christian.
j
i was just starting to think, they removed religion from schools and public areas and jobs.
whats next?
the removal of everyone who believes in god or some high power?
Why would you want deities, demons, angels, devils, and other mythological creatures and stories taught in a science class?
j
soon after we arrive on this earth, we become aware of the most fundamental fact of our existence, that we won't be here very long.
an average life span lasts less than 30,000 days.
we sleep a third of that time, so the days we experience number less than 20,000. we may try, but we can't ever completely deny our mortality.
Perhaps both birth and death appear within the foundational reality: Life.
Am "I" the isolated creature defined within religious and scientific books? Have we taken the first step first, and thoroughly investigated into what we really are when void of all we believe and intellectualize our"selves" to be?
What are we, really, at our foundation?
j
i was just starting to think, they removed religion from schools and public areas and jobs.
whats next?
the removal of everyone who believes in god or some high power?
Gumshine!!! What a very pleasant surprise.
j
i was just starting to think, they removed religion from schools and public areas and jobs.
whats next?
the removal of everyone who believes in god or some high power?
Welcome to the forum, Spirit Axal .
"what would Jesus do"
Imagine what it would be like not placing attention and energy on abstract beliefs, deities and make-believe drama within the minds imagination, and instead placing attention on the wondrous and glorious REALITY of life and existence in and around you. Jesus would very likely do that.
j
from jwd.
it has helped me so much and i appreciate everyone sharing their stories.
i have read so many amazing posts with unbelievable research and thought put into them.
Looks like you have been here one year to the day.
Good luck and I wish you the best.
j
so....do any of you believe in some person in the sky floating around called jesus?
or having a relationship with that person (or god) who is in some other dimension apparantly?
being a witness, they stressed so much having a relationship with "jehovah" and all that.
do any of you believe in some person in the sky floating around
Welcome, Monster.
Why would we want to confine our foundational significance to an invisible creature or configuration somewhere out in space, time and dimension? Why place any quantitative or spatial limitations on our Source and Sustenance at all? Who the hell are we to do such a thing?
In other words, my answer would be: "No".
j
i was wondering why many of you turn to to other religions after being freed from the foolishness of the jw's?
after i relieved myself of the burden of the foolish witnesses, i was able to understand god in my own fashion and i've never felt better.
many religions pratice mind control similar to the wittnesses so why not free yourselves from all of them?
Welcome, dawg, and godless.
Basically we hold on to religion because we come to identify with the beliefs as paramount to who we are.
Here is a good article which goes into detail: http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-11/beliefs.html
j
and those who go with... the greatest of love and peace to you!
very soon now, we will again have opportunity to publicly declare our sonship, (re)ratify our covenant with god, and eat from the tree of life!
from the founding of the world, there have been those whose aim is to persuade us from it, either through lies or through exploitation of our own imperfections.
Dear Shelby,
It's understandable that it appears that what I am pointing to is an "abstract idea", because the mind can not get its limited comprehension around it. But then, the mind can never truly understand what is real and actual, it can only comprehend and offer a mental interpretation or simulation of reality. The mind is nothing but abstracts. What I am attempting to point to is what is not thought, simulation or abstract; but rather the Reality that the mind and all existence exists within.
It seems we simply come from two different perspectives.
Through the eyes of duality and phenomena, time and space, separate isolated things and creatures great and small, gods and slaves, good and evil, love and hate, etc. In this realm, what you say, dear Shelby, is fitting, and even attractive, warm and beautiful. A greater good, external to us, existing, like us in space and time, a distinct entity with a name, hating and destroying for us what is bad that we may live in love and peace. The prime ingredients of most all legends and religions. Hard not to like.
However, my emphasis is on the unmoving peace and stillness of That, which all things within space and time -- and even space and time itself -- exist within: That which -- absolutely and flawlessly -- has no beginning and no end: That, which is the exact and pristine foundational reality of all things, unconditionally and without restriction, no matter how they appear through the eyes of quantitative and fragmentational duality.
Through eyes fixed upon the minds duality, that which is truly Whole (nondual), seems hidden, and so we suffer. Yet, it is the very same consciousness which witnesses duality that is, in truth -- eternally pristine, whole and complete. It just needs to be seen.
j
when i came to this board, i thought that it was for encouragement amoung people who had been treated badly by the wtbts, i did not understand that people were going to come here and bash god, his son and the bible.
i could understand some embitterment over religion but some of you people are down right insulting.
not to mention the fact that i have tried to contact others on the board and have had my messages ignored.. .
Wafe:
The Bible is all I have left and the last thing I need to hear are people that are constanly trying to distroy that faith by saying things are meant to damage it.
Perhaps the problem, dear Wafe, is that you have reduced the Divine down to words in a book and can not imagine a Source any greater than one pulled from superstitious thoughts of ancient desert tribesmen. You have placed yourself in a very precarious situation that is all too easily threatened.
The smaller our god, the larger the sphere of ominous menace.
I suggest it is time for you to either expand on your sense of Divine significance, or else find a warm place where others support only the very, very small.
Your true Source has provided you with a wondrous and infinite expression of life and universe in and around you to help you sense and see the truth, and all you have eyes for is tribal stories. It may be that this Bible you so cherish is really your prison in that its pages are blinding you to the reality that vibrantly exists all around and within you.
The jail cell door, is unlocked.
j
