Ok, look. Whoever is talking to you about the Jehovah Witnesses, just make a 180 degree turn and run as fast as you can. If you are seriously looking into the sect, first read what a lot of people around here have to say before the Witnesses indoctrinate you. And according to them, no, you dont go to heaven, but to an earthly paradise. They just twist things around, edit something here and there in the Bible, and you end up in an earthly paradise with the 144,000 ruling along with Jehovah. Hehe, welcome to the board.
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Can I get to heaven?
by JesusFreak ini was wondering if i become a jehova's witness tonight and die tommorow, will i go to heaven?
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Did Jesus REALLY cast demons into swine?
by gumby inthe gospels tell us that on one occasion jesus exorcised a man of demons who called themselves "legion" because there was about..."two thousand of them.
" these demons are cast by jesus into a large herd of pigs, which rush over the edge of a hillside and are drowned.. exactly the motif is found in the rites of the mysteries at eluesis ( about 20-40 miles from greece) as part of the purification ceremony before initiation, some 2 thousand initiates all bathed in the sea with young pigs.
this bathing ritual banished all evil into the pigs, which were then sacraficed, as a symbol of the initiates own impurities, by being chased over a chasm.. these latter rites and performances were long before jesus time.
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Well, I've been reading the book He Came to Set the Captives Free in which a top witch here in the United States was possesed by a demon called Legion, but had 400 under his command. According to the book, Legion was the commander of those other 400 demons in her. I really do believe that Jesus cast out a demon by the name of Legion. Well, i guess that's what faith is, believing without seeing it. I do believe demons exist nowadays, and I do believe Legion is still around...
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The JWs biggest weakness.....
by Oxnard Hamster insome people say that jws are very good at what they do.
they are highly trained in their doctrine.
one website said that they would blow the average christian away in an arguement.
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From my conversation with JWs I've found them to be pretty dumb. Once you know their doctrines and have heard a lot of their arguments, they just seem like machines spitting a bunch of useless, contradicting, senseless information. At school, I have a classmate who is a JW that frequently goes on field service, gives studies, and reads the Bible a lot. Man, when I got into a conversation with him I left him with a bunch of "homework". He would think he had me, but I would bring up a stronger point, and he would say, "I'll have to research more on that". From what I've seen, they don't know much, they can't reason, all they know is what the WT wants them to know. And that's true, once you "beat" them in an argument, they turn around and leave.
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What would Jesus teach us today?
by petespal2002 ini'm wondering, if jesus was on earth today, what would he be teaching, and would we believe it , or would we set up a website to discuss his thoughts?
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ClassAvenger
He would teach us to love and trust God with all our mind and heart.
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Going deeper into JW stupidities
by ClassAvenger inok, i am totally frustrated with these jehovah witnesses.
they drove me out of the limit today when they said that satan was not cast out of heaven and sent to earth until 1914. im like, "what the hell???
" what is their freaking problem.
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About the angels, yeah they are asexual. I think it says in the Bible that we will be like angels and we will not marry in heaven. That means that we don't get sex, but other people like Billy Graham says that if theres not sex, then there must be much greater pleasures (not sexual) that wouldn't compare to having sex. I mean, its really stupid how an angel would be tempted, sin, and go back to heaven to God's presence, and be considered a righteous one. If they did it, why not us? Ya see, so that didn't really happen. In Gen 6:1 the "children of God" refers to the descendants of Seth or better yet, to those who believed in God. The daughter's of men refers to those that were strangers to God and his holiness.
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Going deeper into JW stupidities
by ClassAvenger inok, i am totally frustrated with these jehovah witnesses.
they drove me out of the limit today when they said that satan was not cast out of heaven and sent to earth until 1914. im like, "what the hell???
" what is their freaking problem.
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OK, I am totally frustrated with these Jehovah Witnesses. They drove me out of the limit today when they said that Satan was not cast out of heaven and sent to earth until 1914. Im like, "WHAT THE HELL???" What is their freaking problem. How can Satan have tempted Adam and Eve and Jesus yet still be a celestial being???? Oh, and that's not it. They also claimed that the angels had sex with females during Noah's times (Gen. 6:1). I mean, are these people nuts? Oh, and the worst part is that I proved them wrong and they got mad at me and just didn't want to hear any more about it. They said they would research some more on that. I mean, what do you all think about this?
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My question to you who believe in eternal bliss/hell
by logansrun inwhether jw or not, if you are a christian and believe in eternal reward/punishment i have a question for you: .
how is it logical or fair that what one does in a finite realm will have infinite consequences?
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ClassAvenger
I believe in God as much as I believe in hell. The Bible says it was created for the angels that revolted, and for those who become followers of those angels. There are only two families in this world: Satan's and Yahweh's. People decide here, in this finite life, where they want to be for eternity.
-Remember that cool quote from Gladiator: "What you do in life echoes in eternity."
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Calling God By His Name?
by shamus inwhy do jehovahs witnesses insist on calling god jehovah?
would you call your father, dad, or whatever by his first name?.
if we were created by god and he is indeed our "heavenly father", then would it not be blasphemous to call him by his first name?.
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I prefer Lord and Father, and I'll throw in Jehovah once in a while with a lot of respect. I don't really mind the Witnesses calling God Jehovah all the time, what bothers me to the extremes is that they think that there can be other gods listening to a prayer and so they must say his name, and to think they are special because they are the only ones that do it. Dumb theology by dumb people.
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Jesus was the prodigal son
by cellomould in.
perhaps this will not be printed in the wt anytime soon, but think about it.. look at the parallels between the behavior of the brother in the parable and the behavior of jesus' real siblings.. jesus was accused of associating with 'tax collectors and sinners'.. he once saved a woman from being stoned by an angry mob for 'adultery'.. he was also criticized for allowing a woman, probably of 'ill repute', to pour expensive oil over him and cry at his feet.. jesus was the prodigal son.... .
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It is better to be said that Jesus is the Father who forgived his son. He forgived everyone and in his forgiveness towards people we can see God's love in full blaze.
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HAPPY ANNIVERSARY WATCHTOWER, annual October (2003) review,
by run dont walk inso it is october 2003, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
90 years after the famous october 1914 (generation) / (armageddon by russell).
what could we buy the watchtower for this 90th anniversary ???.
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I would give them a Bible. A real Bible.