Posts by GotJesus

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Need Help Witnessing to JWs

by HuskerMike in

i am new here, and am a christian.

i had a young man and mother attempt to sell jw to my wife, who agreed to listen but only when i am there.

we are meeting with them tomorrow.

GotJesus

Hello Mike, I came to this forum for exactly the same reasons you did. Im a non denom. Christian.

I have a strong desire to help these people. I work with 4 JWs who found out my interest in God & have not let up on me ever since. Ive pointed out several things to these folks regarding the cross thing & the John 1:1 thing among others & have gotten some interesting reactions.

Try asking them why every other English translation of John 1:1 exept the NWT states that "The Word was God", then theyll say something about original greek & hebrew. Then you can tell them that many Greek scholars or experts agree that the NWT contains "a gross mistranslation of John 1:1" or "its impossible to translate John 1:1 in this way"

Theyve said things like: "hmmm....interesting." or "Ill have to see that in context" or "I never looked at it that way" My approach is never to direct anything at thier religion, I always direct it at my own former religion...catholicism. You can rip catholics all day long & the JW will admire you for it but you must always, without them knowing, play up the very close similarities in both groups. Say things like: "Ya know that the catholics think theyre the only ones who will live forever(dont say: go to heaven), Then say "I cant believe that, I believe the bible was written to all people." What happens is they will agree with you, then unknowingly they begin to see the parallels between both religions. I cant say things will work for you but I seem to be making at least a little progress.

Just some thoughts, MJ

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Trinitarians, Did Jesus reveal himself as God?

by ClassAvenger in

i'm a person that believes in the trinity, but i have a question.

i know jesus didn't reveal to all the people to whom he preached as god himself, and it was not something that he directly taught (or at least i think he didn't), but i know from what i've read that the disciples knew and taught it.

my question is, did jesus tell them, or did they have this revealed when they were anointed by the holy spirit?

GotJesus

The disciples were shown Christs true diety through His actions ie: miracles, healing, his own ressurection. It was nesessary because just like in our times, mere mortals had difficulty putting faith into the intangibles.

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Jehovah's Witness and Birthdays

by lisavegas420 in

i know that jehovah's witness say only two birthday celebrations are spoken of in the bible and that neither were held by persons who worshiped jehovah.

or were there any other celebrations that were simular to birthday celebrations?.

inquiring minds need to know.

GotJesus

We could look at Romans 14:5-6 to see a very clear message about how holidays should be handled.

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Biblical references ?

by KGB in

i have noticed that a lot of you here quote references of history from scripture, so my question is this.

if you say that the bible is not the true word of god then how can it even be a true word of history.

GotJesus

Do any of you think in relation to prophecies, that mankind has something to do with these prophecies coming true? I think men make these things happen, possibly unknowingly. Its like if you believe in an idea so much even if its a falsehood YOU will make it happen. Mankind always has the capacity to affect any given outcome to any given "prophecy"......just my opinion :)

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Physical and/or Spiritual

by Inkie in

no doubt all (with few and rare exceptions) believe that the physical world exists.

however, what i should like to know is, how many here believe that a spiritual world exists?

and, if you believe that a spiritual world exists, do you believe that the two worlds (or universes, call it what you like) each exist separately and distinct one from the other?

GotJesus

I have difficulty accepting the notion that the human race & or the earth were simply a random happening at the time of creation. When the bible states that everything was brought into existance in six days, "days" I believe is not litteral days but the time between the beginning & the end which we are obviously involved in right now.

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I had a wierd experience this morning...

by christopherceo in

...that left me feeling, well, wierd.

it happened about 8:30 this morning, which is pretty early for me since i don't usually go to bed before 3-4am and never wake up before 11am.

i was cruising along the only coastline in florida that has bluffs, it's called "scenic highway" in pensacola, fl.

GotJesus

Christ is pulling your heart strings. I love that feeling. I experience this every day. do not rest for a moment, let him pull you in. God is everywhere, in your car, in the traffic light, inbetween the cushions in ones sofa. Let the truth shine & you will receive all the riches waiting on you in heaven.

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I am leaving my wife...

by fulano in

and i feel sad.

everything happened so fast, 1999 back from patterson, 2000 inactive and no longer an elder, 2001 smoking everything that planet earth offers, and now in love with a girl for a couple of months.

i feel sad but liberated.

GotJesus

Hold on for as long as it takes, its hard as Ive been there. Satan wants this for you, dont bow to he who would destroy you.

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Why do you think......

by copsec in

so many people who come out of the borg are so depressed and angry and freaked out?????

i have been out for 7 years now and i am happier than i have ever been in my life and was from the very first moment i left!

the only reason i even go into ex-jw groups is i like to make fun of them and other exs are the only ones who understand what i am talking about when i make a funny comment??

GotJesus

Bona- I must say that after reading your post, a little fear crept up in me. Having lost faith in the bible itself seems like an "off the deep end" kind of revelation to me. Ive been seeing alot of that in many of the posts on this board. It seems the WTBTS hs done so much wrong in peoples lives, that many just go to the opposite extreme. You said in your post that your life has gotten harder. Without a basic belief or faith in the bible, I would say the road ahead will never become any easier for you. Please understand that Im not trying to make you feel any worse than you already do but as I read your post, a sense of urgency rose up within me to share my thoughts with you. In the future I can share with you my story if you would like as Im not into preaching to those who could really care less.

God Bless You.

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Paid Holidays: should they or shouldnt they?

by GotJesus in

i think jws should have to work on paid holidays.

i work with 3 of them & they even accept the annual holiday bonus as a gift from the company.....hmmmmm.

what do you all think about this.

GotJesus

Thanks for the welcome!! There seems to be a wealth of great info here, I hope to gain more insight.

I should let it be known that I am not a former JW, I just feel as if I have had a "calling" to help JWs in particular, to a better way through Christ our lord & savior.

Edited by - GotJesus on 25 January 2003 14:58:45

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Greeting Cards - Seasons Greetings

by akenglund in

i know that public organizations such as businesses should be respectful of religions and most don't send out cards stating "merry christmas".

how about "season's greetings"?

if you interpret it as the winter season (skating, snowmen, etc..) should that be considered offensive.

GotJesus

Ive just posted on a similar matter. My company sends out a monetary gift around Christmas every year that reads: HAPPY HOLIDAYS! on the front & the JWs I work with gladly accept it & spend it on themselves as would I. Im non denominational & have found new life in Christ.