Posts by Tech49

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a "worldly" (gasp) Catholic just showed my huaband what true integrity is

by nonjwspouse in

he was a tenant of ours in 2009 on a visa, but was unaware of all the rules,such as checking in with any new address.

after some time, although hardworking, he lost his job and began getting behind in rent.

he promised to keep paying as much as he could.

Tech49

I have to agree.

My personal experience has shown that it is NEVER in my best interests to employ "brothers". I have never seen a more lazy, whiney, self-centered bunch in all my life. Now mind you, there are alot of "worldly" idiots as well, but I can honestly say that the guys and gals in my company right now are a great bunch, and NONE of them are "brothers". The "friends" usually dont last more than a month or so. The last one, I personally fired because he straight up LIED to my face about doing work at a jobsite, when he hadnt done a stinkin thing. Another fellow I hired as a favor to an elder was the most lazy fool I have ever seen... I caught him sleeping on another jobsite. Another down and out, unemployed window-washer (no joke) I felt pity for..... he asked me for a raise the SECOND DAY! 3 days after that, he quit because he said he wasnt making enough (I was paying way more than minimum wage, and had promised a CASH bonus to help him out if he did a good job for me), and it got in the way of his Pioneering. So back on welfare he went! (again, no joke).

I have had more no-show, quit-because-its-hard, I'm-sick, I'm-worth-more-money excuses from JW's than anyone else, hands down. That's just my experience, I know others have had better luck, but my wife Victoria continually has to remind me..... "Dont hire Witnesses, you know it isnt going to work out...)

Their general attitude is that they are owed something, and they don't owe anyone anything to anyone else.

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SEND THEM ALL !!!

by Tech49 in

i dont see anyone else mentioning it, so i will: last night at the service meeting there was a letter read, from the most holy 8.. a request for more workers!

and this one with new addendums!

i am pulling from memory, but pretty sure i have it right (feel free to correct me if someone else hears the letter too).. .

Tech49

I dont see anyone else mentioning it, so I will: Last night at the Service Meeting there was a letter read, from the Most Holy 8.

A request for MORE WORKERS! And this one with new addendums! I am pulling from memory, but pretty sure I have it right (Feel free to correct me if someone else hears the letter too).

Most maximum age requirements are now being waved, so that ANYONE over 19years old can turn in an application for:

1. Temporary work at Bethel/Warwick. Previous age requirements were no one over 55.

Come one, come all, even you old-timers that are on SSI, to build the grand temple!! (Please be in good health though, as we dont want to care for you in the event you get confused and wander into the lake...) Isnt Jehovah so loving and generous to allow us to be a part of this EXCITING new work!!!

2. Semi-permanent stays (1 year or more). Previous age max was 35. Now all you welfare sucking slackers can come on out to share in this marvelous work NOW, before the END OF THIS SYSTEM !!!!

Special mention was made several times of those who might choose to "commute" to the project sites. And that you only had to be baptized for 1 year.

I heard several comments after the meeting about how exciting these times are, one brother is ready to drop everything just to go and live anywhere NEAR Warwick, so that he can be a part of it all. Forget working, or bills, or responsibilities, he just wants to be taken care of by HOLY SPIRIT... sigh.....

I think that as time goes on, fewer and fewer are making the trip to "help out", as they realize they are getting soaked, and are receiving absolutely ZERO compensation for their efforts, and are in fact spending thousands of $$ to build a Grand Taj Mahal for the Popelets. Hence the REPEATED calls for help, and lowering of requirements to do so.

I remember that when I made the journey to Bethel in NY last year, I couldnt help but notice that the oldest of the buildings, the old factory building, was mostly empty. We made our way downstairs, and the lobby was a closed-up ghost town, decorated in the 90's shades of purple and blue. I saw floor after floor empty, nothing, nada. What do we need NEW digs for? Obviously the ones we have right here arent even being used? Of course, they had already been in the process of moving out, and selling out, but it seemed ridiculous to tell the Rank and File to simplify and be happy with what you have, when the GB is making plans to go big and build out at the lake.....(again... WHY)?

I'll be damned if I am not going to buy that 10 acre piece I have been looking at for a while now! And no, I wont be making the journey to the Promised Land to help build the new Grande Temple. Let the other zombies go, I am working on my own future, not someone elses.

I better go before I get more worked up.....

Jack Harper, Tech49

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2014 YB Up. Partakers 13,204

by LostGeneration in

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that is all.

link.

Tech49

So here is a little something that I have always wondered about: If there were approx 90,000 partakers in 1925, 100 years ago, they are all dead and gone, probably by, let's say 1960, just for discussion's sake.

Ok, so that means that the new "crop" of partakers numbering 13,000+ (and growing) are "newbies". So that's at least over 100,000 seperate, different partakers. Just in the last 100 years alone. That is also not taking into account the number of partakers that have popped up and died off DURING that time period from the 60's until now. ( I am sure someone else has done the calculations, but you get the idea.)

Now, what happened to the numbers of those in the first century congregations (over 2000 years ago!) that were supposedly of the annointed? Unknown number.My point is, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that these numbers just dont work. A literal number of 144,000 does not pencil out.

Next prediction: As the number of "annointed" continue to rise, the WTBTS will have no choice but to rewrite the story and backtrack on the LITERAL number, and it will become a FIGURATIVE number, indicating COMPLETENESS (12 x 12 x 1000) to the inth degree, because only Jah knows the ACTUAL number. Then, it will no longer be necessary to PUBLISH the actual numbers.

"After all, WE didnt say the numbers were literal."......Quick, someone change the Online Library.....

Checkmate, again.

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Just wanting clarification on the RBC

by joe134cd in

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i have been reading threads about how the rbc operates, so i sort of have a fair idea of what the answers will be.

but i would like to have a more direct answer to my questions.. where do the orders come from that a hall is in need of a remodel, or a new one to be built.. can the elders refuse a remodel or quickly built.. out side contractors are only allowed with rbc approval.

what are the consequences if say a kh needed a new roof, and secular contractor was hired.. is it a case that orders a given that a hall needs a remodel, and that the rbc will have total control, and look out for who ever gets in the way, and elders just have to simply comply.. this is the question i most want answered.

Tech49

Just wanted to chime in here, after the comments of James Jackson, and Partisan.

I will concur 100% that what you are hearing is true. After many, many years as a Trade Overseer, I was moved to Architecture, and then to Purchasing and Estimating.

When onsite for the actual construction project, smaller, necessary on-the-spot purchases can be made by a "purchasing agent" that has a credit card and a truck, and can go down to the local store and pay full retail (short on bricks? short on siding? short on roofing?? short on paint?? who forgot nails? every single project...).... mostly because incompetant RBC members cant run a tape measure or read a set of plans.

The RBC purchases materials from Home Depot where it can. The pricing is a whopping 10% below full retail, as was mentioned. Holy Spirit is saving WT BILLIONS !!

Big deal. I can go to the local lumber yard and have them put together a package price that will beat HD every time. The pricing structure the RBC has in place does NOT benefit the local congregations. WT gets kickbacks and rebates, that go directly into their coffers. As stated previously, most prices are overinflated, and are far above retail. I also know several local "contractors" that are "vendors" to the RBC, that provide things like cabinets, podiums, artwork, decorations, etc to the RBC, and charge them a very PADDED pricetag. I saw the invoices that came through the office for these "brother" "vendors", and thought to myself ..... WTH??? Double dipping much??!! Seriously, $1200 for a podium/lecturn that could have been built in the garage on a Saturday night with a couple of beers??? Or $800 for an Information Board?

No way these guys could ever get away with charging this much on a commercial jobsite! Brother "vendor" just happens to also be a reg pioneer and a prominent elder in the circuit, so shut up and dont worry about it. Multiple times, many different brothers.

Or how about free reign to take a weekend with your wife and go on a buying spree to buy whatever fancies you to "decorate" a new KH, with artwork, vases, tables, pretty bathroom gizmoes, doilies, fainting couches and a rocker for the ladies, changing room wallpaper and art, mood lights for the babies.... have a ball! Here's a credit card! Gobs of money you would NEVER feel right spending on your own household, its suddenly OK for the KH, no matter the cost! Holy Spirit loves a cheerful giver buyer. !

And dont even think for a second about getting any other "bids" for materials or cabinets or carpet or windows or lecturns or info boards from anyone else! RBC comes down on you like a ton of bricks, for "not submitting to Theocratic Order". BULL...... SHIT. Guess why I got kicked out of purchasing...... Apparently Holy Spirit didnt approve of me trying to save the poorer congregations some cash.

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New "Research Guide" released today

by leaving_quietly in

without a lot of fanfare, the much anticipated "research guide" has been released.. to view it:.

http://wol.jw.org.

click on publications.

Tech49

It's there:

Click in this order:

JW.ORG -----> Publications ------> Online Library -----> Publications -----> Research Guide (4th item down the list)

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New "Research Guide" released today

by leaving_quietly in

without a lot of fanfare, the much anticipated "research guide" has been released.. to view it:.

http://wol.jw.org.

click on publications.

Tech49

None of the references publications are older than 2000.

Soon, the WT CD containing all the old publications will be out of production, and you will have the sanitized, bleached, and re-worded online version only.

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Just out of curiosity, how many elders (current & ex) do we have here?

by mrquik in

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me.

Tech49

Previously served as an elder for about 10 years, up until about a year ago. Just couldnt do it anymore...too much hypocrisy, backstabbing, personal agendas, politics, ass kissing, and general disregard for real love. It was becomming all about numbers, stats, and who you were friends with. The nepotism was rampant, double standards were blatantly obvious. Holy Spirit had left the building long ago.

I told Vic.... fu*# this, I'm out. Im not serving with these "brothers" ever again. I handed in my book and keys and left them dangling in the wind.

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The " HIGHER EDUCATION" thread!!!

by DATA-DOG in

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alright.

let's have the ultimate discussion on "higher education.

" let's talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Tech49

Jack Harper, Tech49:

Age: Mid 40's

Highest Formal Education: HS

Graduated late 80's when it was absolutely NOT in the cards to even THINK about college. Turned down multiple scholarships, after graduating with Honors, top of the class in HS. My poor student counselor was beside herself, and just couldnt understand it (cause it didnt make sense, that's why!). Huge aptitude towards architecture and engineering. Turned down an offer to intern at an Architects office upon graduation, right when computerized drafting and design was just breaking ground. It was an exciting time! I wanted it soooo bad, but turned it down, to do the "right" thing. UGH. Looking back, I hate the decisions I made when I was 18 and 19, based on what others told me, or pressured me to do, 'cause the "system is going to end VERRRRRY soon!". However, I knew for a fact that there was no way I was going to be a pioneer tho. I grunted it out in the construction field for about 10 years (with the young wife and i slaving away at nighttime janitorial jobs to make ends meet..), until I met an older man one day on a jobsite, and he gave me a good talking to, and made me see where my future was, career-wise, if I continued on the current path. He made me think.... alot. I still think about that conversation we had. Fast forward about 15 years.........

Currently: Self employed, CEO and owner of a commercial company in the construction field, but at the higher end of the food chain, as architecture and engineering are a very important part of what we do. I made the decision to take extracurricular classes and CE courses in my industry about 10 years ago, yearly, to stay on top of things. The family and I live very comfortably, not rich, but fairly simply and comfortably. We get chastised for "working too much", or being "distracted" by "material things"...... sorry, how about YOU provide for my family then??? Morons.

I see many, even just this last weekend, that are "pioneers" all their lives, and are just plain dumb. No skills, no hobbies, nothing. Washing windows, cleaning houses, mopping floors. They aren't happy, no fulfillment, no joy. Sad, just sad.

PS.. My oldest just got accepted into the local Community College, studying Hybrid Vehicle Technologies, and Hybrid/Solar Utility Sciences. He's stoked, as are Vic and I !! No floor mopping for our kinfolk!

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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.

by joe134cd in

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i was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.

if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.

such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .

Tech49

Simply put, no, they cant stop you, and dont have the authority or ability to do so. They dont have mall cops on duty, checking ID. Its all a percieved power trip, one that you would essentially have to allow youself to be a victim of.

That being said, I have seen it a few years ago, where a brother in our congregation became "disqualified" from attending an international convention, for allowing his DF son to live in his home.

He "allowed" himself to be pressured into forfeiting the trip with his family, with non-refundible tickets. He was pretty upset about it.

Its all a mind game, its all about control, .... but control that you willingly give up.

With this recent set of instructions regarding the upcoming international conventions, I mentioned to someone that we may just go to one on our own, without making special arrangements with the WT tour groups and packages. They were truly horrified! "You can't do that !!!" Um, yes I can.... who's gonna stop me? They dont have guards at the doors, for goodness sake. And yes, they are open to the public...they are just another DC with more people from different areas. Its just another way to forcefeed you with control and fearmongering for being disobedient to "instructions" from the Most Holy GB.

The mind games are ridiculous, insidious, and infantile.

Tech49

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Education Double Standard

by Tech49 in

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this is the kind of thing that really burns me.. .

wtbts holds out an extreme double standard in regards to education.

most, if not all, of you know how they feel about obtaining an education past high school (in the u.s.).

Tech49

I wanted to revive this thread from a few months ago, as it appears that the same double standard is occuring in other countries, Europe, etc.

Evem here in the US just lately on the West coast, there has been a real ramp up in the RBC's to look for "educated" workers...ie engineers, architects, developers, and the like. Word on the street is that the Regional Building Committes are being told to ramp up remodels and new construction by a factor of 4. Yes, 4 times the construction activity from last year, going into 2014.

Oddly enough though, hard to find that kind of quality workers coming from a non-educated pioneering background!