are you referring to the "lamp book"?
I may be able to get a hold on one. Look in your pm
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i was wanting to look at the questions for baptism that year for a reason...anybody have a that book?
i can't seem to find mine... codeblue
are you referring to the "lamp book"?
I may be able to get a hold on one. Look in your pm
i just had a discussion with a relative who attended the district convention.
he gave me the booklet, "keep on the watch.
" according to him, the speaker who introduced the booklet talked about the people who were stumbled because of the change in understanding regarding "this generation.
Sometime in the late 1970s or early 1980s the Society published a half-hearted apology for being too eager regarding the 1975 issue.
The little blurb was in one of the late 70 or early 80's yearbooks. It was a few lines at the bottom of the page. hardly an apology.
i will be combining the few points in this article with next week's due to time constraints.
if you want to share an observations, please do.
i learn so much from all of you.. just a few points.
I would not wish to pry them away from the society - a life away from that dream could destroy them.
Well said jnat! I have often thought about this very thing. When I share different things about the society with my mom, I see a sadness in her eyes. She feels only the "truth" is of value to her and to take that away feels like the rug has been pulled from under her.
I often ask myself if I have a right to destroy something that is so valuable and has given meaning to her life. (her words)
I am angered by the treatment of the elderly ones in the congregation. I see a lot of elderly ones who can barely walk and yet they are made to feel guilty if they don't peddle magazines every week.
I have seen many sick elderly ones who are expected to sit through days of hot, sticky and uncomfortable conventions.
This is ELDER ABUSE.
But what can you expect from an organization where the leaders are so out of such with the general public. They don't care. Their needs are well taken care of. What the hell do these old goats understand about the needs of the elderly. They use them. They take their money and then they throw them away like yesterday's garbage.
in the 7/15 wt i dont recall the exact page, i dont have the magazine here at work but there is a chart that lists blood, what components are up to you and which ones are not allowed at all.
anyway its very odd because they list which ones christians should avoid from left to right, i.e.
red blood cells, white blood cells, plasma, etc.
The regular garden variety dub ( Of which I was a part of) does not really understand this whole change of blood.
I was talking to one sister who boasts of a rich 'spiritual heritage' (members of her family are at bethel, in the missionary work, DO, CO ect, ect). She thought that fractions were blood alternatives and not parts of blood.
I talked to an elder regarding the July 15 article and his response was that it didn't matter what the changes are. The light gets brighter and brighter and we are to accept the governing body's lead because THEY HAVE A CONNECTION WITH GOD.
Unless one realizes that the governing body is not god's mouthpiece Jw's will continue to do what they are told whether its right or wrong.
I discussed this article with my mom (very loyal dub) and finally revealed to her that I do not carry a blood card and that in case of emergency I will do what I see fit and not what the society says. After all today's new light will eventually become old light.
wannaexit
new light, 7-years-ago versus today--blood
seven years ago (1997) the wts taught jws not to use from blood of afterbirth.
specifically the wts wrote:w97 2/1 29 questions from readers:
Marvin,
nice post. A keeper. I always enjoy your posts. I wish you could post more.
Wannaexit
i once asked my daughter what happened to make her lose faith in the 'truth'.
what was the turning point?.
she said she heard an assembly part about witnesses kids hanging around the mall.
Metatron,
I salute your daughter. I wish I had the sense to stand up for myself when I was a teenager.
wannaexit
watchtower dumbo plans released to brooklyn papers.
check out the four new towering apartment complexes brooklyn is getting ready to build on the dumbo property they own!.
http://www.watchtowernews.org/4towers.htm.
I was recently told by a canadian bethelite that the governing body is sensing that the end is very near and that is the reason they are simplyfing things in Brooklyn.
Is this their way of simplyfing things?
Liars !!!!!!!!!!
wannaexit
the anguish and the agony of having to renounce the lifelong convictions of one's heart.the surreal horror to know that it was all a lie!
for the 33 years that i was a j-ho,the central theme of discussion among active jehovah's witnesses was their inescapable mortality.here i am 47 years old and the onset and onrush of middle-age can be overwhelming and devastating.
when they die they don't go to heaven.many like myself,squandered our youth for the watchtower.years of are vital prime spent in the borg are gone now forever.
When I was a doubting JW I sought reasonable, balanced and less emotionally charged information than you provide.
Logan,
perhaps your years in the borg were less than Dannys and you had less to lose. I know that I feel the same way as Danny many times. You only get one life and when most of it is squandered you don't get it back.
I agree that hate is toxic but it is nonetheless a imperative stage in the process of recovery.
just my 2cents
Wannaexit
the anguish and the agony of having to renounce the lifelong convictions of one's heart.the surreal horror to know that it was all a lie!
for the 33 years that i was a j-ho,the central theme of discussion among active jehovah's witnesses was their inescapable mortality.here i am 47 years old and the onset and onrush of middle-age can be overwhelming and devastating.
when they die they don't go to heaven.many like myself,squandered our youth for the watchtower.years of are vital prime spent in the borg are gone now forever.
Many like myself,squandered our youth for the Watchtower.Years of are vital prime spent in the Borg are gone now forever.
You are so right my friend. At age 45 I feel that the best years of my life have gone down the sewer.
wannaexit
according to dubdom, what are you?
i am a lame weakass lamb who goes on apostate websites who faded.
in the real world i am free from mind control.
am a "weak-minded, bottom-feeding, scum-sucking apostate sucking at the teat of Babylon the Great."
LoL
This is too funny.
wannaexit