Posts by thetruthaboutjws

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The new children's book.

by l3gi0n in

i was reading through the new kids book released at the assembly, and couldn't help but notice the chapter on birthdays.

it went on to explain that people were beheaded at birthdays, and that god never said to celebrate them.

it then quoted the catholic encyclopedia as stating "only sinners... make great rejoicings over the day on which they were born" .

My question is the watchtower is always slamming catholics and all christianity for that matter why support what you say with "evil christianity's" quotes. If i where a canodate running for office I wouln't say "quoting from what i seletivley agree with about my competition becuase i can't come up with my own proof" see it just doesn't fit

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I poem about being in the society

by thetruthaboutjws in

i figured i would share my poem i wrote it is based on the borg and my being in it for 17 years.

decete, the pain, the hurt.

why human greed and mortal power/.

thetruthaboutjws

i figured i would share my poem I wrote it is based on the borg and my being in it for 17 years. Tell me what you think of it.

Decete, the pain, the hurt
Why human greed and mortal power/
Leaves with no remorse, our stomach sour/
Love and hope and friendships end/
Because of lies and evil men/

The deciete I speak consumed them all/
Unaware inevitably they will fall/
Large false prophecies and little truth/
Allows them to consume the youth/

Soon youth grow older they realise/
They have all thrown away their lives/
They can't turn back it is no use/
For there's to much for them to lose/

Listen closley to what I say/
So in end you will not pay/
If listen not then you will see/
You might become another me/

written by me Levi Henley Copywrite 2003

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Ghosts and Hades: Another Watchtower Deception

by metatron in

what did the jews in jesus' day think about the soul and hades?.

if you read the watchtower, you might think that they dutifully followed jw teaching.

and had no idea about immortal souls or ghosts or punishment in hades.. .

thetruthaboutjws

I agree. I used a different means of research to find this out. I became a paranormal researcher(ghost hunter)

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SATAN - Behold! The work of man.

by ninecharger in

years ago i read a poem to do with ww3.

the last lines as i remember:.

"satan sat on primrose hill his scarlet wings unfurled.

thetruthaboutjws

Since we are on the subjec of peams is here i figured i would share my poem it is based on the borg and my being in it for 17 years.

Decete, the pain, the hurt
Why human greed and mortal power/
Leaves with no remorse, our stomach sour/
Love and hope and friendships end/
Because of lies and evil men/

The deciete I speak consumed them all/
Unaware inevitably they will fall/
Large false prophecies and little truth/
Allows them to consume the youth/

Soon youth grow older they realise/
They have all thrown away their lives/
They can't turn back it is no use/
For there's to much for them to lose/

Listen closley to what I say/
So in end you will not pay/
If listen not then you will see/
You might become another me/

written by me Levi Henley

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Subliminal Images in Watchtower Literature

by BornAgainGirl! in

subliminal images in watchtower stuff:.

http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=subliminalimages and there are many more than this.. what i want to know is - why?

what purposes do these images serve?

thetruthaboutjws

Might I add not to be on any side not all of the images are faces. They are symboles to. I would advise reading "Jehovah's Witnesses & The Hour of Darkness" before makeing anyassumptions on weather it is real or not.

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Is The WTS A Masonic Organization?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

is it possible that the wts comes out with 'new light' in order to hide a secret truth within the higher ranks of its organization?

thetruthaboutjws

actualy i have heard and believe in a different theory. the fact that the are free masons may not be true but i do believe they are part of a much more secret spawn of fremasonry called the illuminatie. look it up. you won't find much as it is a secret society. but you can find some info. there is a book called the armagedon cult by danial hall. this book adresses that theorie. (excuse my spelling)

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um the watchtower saying this is quite humorous

by thetruthaboutjws in

all watchtower quotes from: awake!

june 22, 2000 entitled: do not be a victim of propaganda!.

bold text = my quotes(incase you couldn't figure that out).

thetruthaboutjws

all watchtower quotes from: Awake! June 22, 2000 entitled: Do Not Be a Victim of Propaganda!

Bold text = my quotes(incase you couldn't figure that out)

THERE is a difference—a big difference—between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. We, on that subject do not show all aspects rather one small view atraficial blown up with large extravagant words, thoughts, ideas etc. in order to somwhat confuse those of simple minds thus giving of the impression we know what we are talkting about.

Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion. Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target. Yea that is what i said above in differnt words pardon my redundency.

The propagandist makes sure that his message appears to be the right and moral one and that it gives you a sense of importance and belonging if you follow it. Wow sense of importance (well if you allow your kid do die because of no blood transfusions god will be happy and you will have a better chance of making it into the "New system(where we will all act alike (eating vedgies, plowing gardens, teaching millions of raised dead people, then finding spare time to pet all the animals)" and your brothers and sisters will lbe with you and help you along. Am i sensing "appears to be the right and moral one and that it gives you a sense of importance and belonging if you follow it"

How can you protect yourself from the types of people that the Bible calls "profitless talkers" and "deceivers of the mind"? (Titus 1:10) Run! far away from the 12 rich men at the top counting your hours of atempted conversion time.

Be selective: A completely open mind could be likened to a pipe that lets just anything flow through it—even sewage. translation "LISTEN TO NO ONE BUT US, HAIL HITLER!

So we need to be selective. We need to scrutinize whatever is presented to us, deciding what to accept and what to reject. Huh when I decided what to reject and what not to they called it being weak. When I voiced a rejection they called it apostacy.

On the one hand, his mind is open, that is, receptive to new information. He properly weighs such new information against the Bible standard and fits what is true into his pattern of thinking. On the other hand, his mind sees the danger of information that is entirely inconsistent with his Bible-based values.Yes inconsistant like this religion. I can agree with the bible being truth. (It does get new light and change prophecy)

Using discernment, we will be able to recognize those who are merely using "smooth talk and complimentary speech" in order to "seduce the hearts of guileless ones." (Romans 16:18) Discernment enables you to discard irrelevant information or misleading facts and distinguish the substance of a matter. Discernment (noun) DIS-RN-MENT (Obveously not used by Jehovah's witnesses)

Put information to the test: "Beloved ones," said John, a first-century Christian teacher, "do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions." (1 John 4:1) Again when i did that they called it lack of faith

Do not just follow the crowd: If you realize that what everybody thinks is not necessarily correct, you can find the strength to think differently. I did this just caused problems.

Some opponents of Jehovah's Witnesses have accused them of spreading Zionist propaganda. Others have charged that the ministry of the Witnesses promotes Communism. Still others have claimed that the work of Jehovah's Witnesses promotes the ideals and interests of "American imperialism." And there are those who assert that the Witnesses are anarchists, fomenting disorder with the aim of changing the social, economic, political, or legal order. Obviously, these conflicting accusations cannot all be true. Not all maby not but some are we are not perfect nor do we claim to be prophets (cough bull-$h#t)

The simple fact is that Jehovah's Witnesses are none of the above. The work of the Witnesses is carried out in faithful obedience to Jesus Christ's mandate to his disciples: "You will be witnesses of me . . . to the most distant part of the earth." (Acts 1:8) Their work focuses solely and exclusively on the good news of the heavenly Kingdom—God's instrument for bringing peace to the whole earth.—Matthew 6:10; 24:14. with the exception of the false prophesy and changing of words in the bible (strictly forbidon by revolation) In other words (WARNING WILL ROBINSON DANGER DANGER!!!!! PROPAGANDA ALERT)

Jehovah's Witnesses teach the rightness of submission to authority. As law-abiding citizens, they follow Bible standards of honesty, truthfulness, and cleanliness. They build good morals into their own families, and they help others to learn how they can do the same. They live peaceably with all men, not getting involved in disruptive demonstrations or political revolutions. Jehovah's Witnesses seek to be exemplary in obeying the laws of the human superior authorities, while they wait patiently on the Supreme Authority, the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, to restore perfect peace and righteous government to this earth.

At the same time, the work of the Witnesses is educational. Using the Bible as a basis, they teach people worldwide to reason on Bible principles and thereby develop right standards of conduct and moral integrity. They promote values that improve family life and help young people cope with their peculiar challenges. They also help people to find the strength to overcome bad habits and to develop the ability to get along with others. Such a work would hardly be termed "propaganda." As The World Book Encyclopedia says, in a climate where ideas circulate freely, "propaganda differs from education." OK I'll give the morals but their behavior is not what the problem is nor does it have anyhting to do with propaganda. translation: These facts are beside the point we have put these last paragraphs in to make us look good so that we sound right and good in order that you do not in reality question us but question everyone else automaticly. the work of the Witnesses is educational. yea so was the work os the german scientists who experamented on jews. (that doesn't mean it was right) They also help people to find the strength to overcome bad habits and refuse perfectly ok blood transfusions They promote values that improve family life reject even your own family if they are dissfellowshiped. (good values)

Thankyou for reading this i found the artical itself humorous without my comments read the whole thing here and the watchtowers "official site http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2000/6/22/diagram_01.htm

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will the JW read this

by wonderer2003 in

the jw's have been back at my door a couple of times since my first post.. she gave me watchtowers and showed me books and literature from the jw cd, i said i would give her something to read when she came back.

she returned today with more medical stuff printed from her cd, so i gave her the stuff i got through the internet (thankfully alot of it was pages i found through this forum).

this is how the conversation went.. jw: afternoon.

thetruthaboutjws

she may read it I wouldn't have when i was one. It took somone very close to me and in the borg (my mother) to point out illogical things i slowley came to realize it was not the truth (several months later) so she may peak or she may dis regard it and try to persuade you to take borg literature. I'm going with the small peak then try to assimalate.

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heated debate on yahoo chat in Jehovah's witness chat with devout jws join

by thetruthaboutjws in

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blood issue right now wanna give me a hand one of me many of them they are being childish.

thetruthaboutjws

blood issue right now wanna give me a hand one of me many of them they are being childish

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What urged YOU to join the cult?

by gydja in

i am just curious now...i was wondering, if you are not born into the jw organization, why did you join in?

what was it that interested you most?

why did you accept to study the bible?

thetruthaboutjws

I personaly was born in it. raised in it for 17 years and i am now 18 i have left for a year. My mother did come into it right before i was born. The reason is is because my dad was raised in it but left and right when i was about to be born My mom was talking about taking me to church. My father said the onley church he would step foot in would be a JW kingdom hall. My mother said he was crazy. My father proceded to witness to her and when one day witnesses came to their door she accepted a bible study just to prove it wrong. As you know the way they brain wash goes like this. They first call and tell you they are bible students etc.. when they have a study they ofcourse don't study the bible. They study a book. Now most books used for study are very cautious at the begining. they say little small stuff(beliefes) then they support them with some facts. After they have proved a couple of points to you unintentionaly your mind doesn't have as much of a wall so you believe more and more because subcauntiously(I know thats not how you spell it) you think since they where right on the other stuff they must be right on this. Eventualy you get to the point where you just believe what ever the society says. That is basicly what happend to my mother she couldn't prove them wrong. So after a while she was more apt to believe what they say.

the happy part of the story is she brought the whole family in and she also is the reason my family is not part of the borg anymore. You may know her she is (LV4FER).