check out the watchtower's erroneous definitions/descriptions of evolution and creationism in paragraphs 2 and 3 respectively on page 7 of the october 15, 2013 watchtower:.
"in its basic form, the teaching of evolution asserts that all life came into existence spontaneously.
"on the other hand, fundamentalists of christendom teach that the universe, including our earth and all life on it, is only a few thousand years old.
Both theories in their modern form exclude any external supernatural agent. Evolutionary scientists today don't support Darwin's statement that a creator originally started it all off.
Modern science cannot prove or disprove a creator who might have started evolutionary processes. There are a lot of scientists who believe in a creator who started evolutionary processes (for example Francis Collins director of Human Genom Project).
check out the watchtower's erroneous definitions/descriptions of evolution and creationism in paragraphs 2 and 3 respectively on page 7 of the october 15, 2013 watchtower:.
"in its basic form, the teaching of evolution asserts that all life came into existence spontaneously.
"on the other hand, fundamentalists of christendom teach that the universe, including our earth and all life on it, is only a few thousand years old.
The theory of evolution does not say a word, that there is no God or no creator (only atheists and fundamentalists in the scientific world say that). Darwin did never say that there is no creator. He even ended his work "Origin of Species..." with the words:
"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone circling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved."
was just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.
wt would rather jws to:.
Lambsbottom: that was not meant to attack you. Maybe you live in a good way ecologically. Wbts probably has environmentally a bad impact as their printing uses too much resources and trees. At least they are downsizing.
was just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.
wt would rather jws to:.
You live in a dreamworld if you believe that global warming is a fraud from msinstream scientists.
Global warming is a fact that you can see with many examples.
Come to our mountains in switzerlanand you can see it firsthand. Go to greenland, the arctic or antarctica and you can experience it. Go to the philippines and look at the aftermath of one of the biggest storms. Or make vacations in Kiribati that is about to vanish in the pacific ocean.
Well yes, just deny all the facts and continue to take always the car, eat big steaks and so on and our grandchildren will thank you.
i was thinking about using a tactic of asking questions revolving around "noahs flood" to try to start my wife doing some serious thinking.
unlike doctrine that cannot often be proven one way or another, this issue can be proven beyond the slightest doubt that it is impossible.. i was thinking about asking a question something like this "i was reading about coral reefs today, and they sure are amazing!
what amazed me the most is how long it takes for them to build the reef, and how long they live!
I don't know if logic will change something in her belief system. I also explained once all the logical flaws of the flood story with my wife. She says that probably the flood was local and not global. But who cares 'We will find out in the new system.'
It's however a good way to do it with questions.
On this thread we discussed about the flood too.http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/268118/1/Dr-Hans-Kristian-Kotlar-supports-creation
looking for feedback.
to bring you all back up to speed, wife is ex-jw.
shunned by her brother and parts of her family at uncles jw funeral.
It is very loving and great to see how you defend your wife.
Did he really call her slut?
Good luck to you and your wife.
hello gents and ladies.
whats your take on this article on jan 2014 awake?.
did your view of evolution change?.
I believe the flood account and sumerian, accadian flood accounts share the same origin. A huge local flood that remained in the collective memory of those nations (not 2400 bce but older.
There are many more flood legends around the world. WT says it is because all humans come from Noah. I believe that those legends come from huge floods after the melting ofvthe last ice age 14000-8000 years ago. The sea level eas about 120metres below todays level. That gave an enormous amount of land to inhabit which is flooded now. There were maybe civilisations that we have never heard if.
In India for example in the gulf of cambay ruins were found deep below sea level. On the japanese island of yonaguni some there are structures deep under water that some scientists believe to be manmade.
hello gents and ladies.
whats your take on this article on jan 2014 awake?.
did your view of evolution change?.
DS211: Rainbows exist when sunlight is reflectef in water sparks. Way before the flood there must have been rainbows as it rained before even the creation of man. The bible speaks of a humid climate.
The flood account doesnt contradict a local flood. The term whole earth is often used in the bible to describe some local things like the roman worldpower.
Flavius Josephus writes in his work 'Jewish antiquities' in paragraph 94-95 and 109 that many people fled to the high mountains and survived the flood (the wt society often quotes from that work). When you view it that all evil people living close to Noah died (but a lot that survived in other parts of the land) then not even this is a contradiction.
the society are at it again.
witnesses at a local congregation are getting rid of old literature that predates the early 90's.
you can imagine why.
How do you know that they destroy it.
In our library we have some okd books like the harp of god. They are not destroyed.
first i made love to my wife, maybe i'm better in bed then i thought, because about an hour after that my wife comes back in and i'm sitting at my desk and i asked her, "when the elders df me are you going to leave me, spiritual endangerment and all" she said, no, i don't feel endangered and we talked awhile and i talked about da ing and not sure what to do, then i shared with her a toned down version of the da letter that i posted and that led to her asking about my beliefs and understandings of who the great crowd and 144k, heaven and earthly hopes.
i was even able to tell her how they changed or distorted the meaning of the word naos to show the great crowd not in heaven.
i was able to show her some of the scriptures from the da letter, able to tell her a little about 1914 and how jesus did'nt invisably come in a presence, showing her scriptures on that and some more ttatt.
Crazyguy: I am happy that you and your wife had an open discussion. You certainly feel relieved. Just continue to show a greater measure of love and respect to her. I hope the same happens once with my wife.
