Here's the deal: life is about making choices (and I know it is old news, but not making a choice is making a choice) and all choices have consequences. The fact that an individual is "not ready" to make the "right" choice does nothing to obviate the consequences of making the "wrong" choice. Not speaking up, not taking a stand, not taking positive action where it is called for, may indeed be right for a particular individual at a particular time, but it still has the consequence of permitting and therefore promoting whatever is going on. Sometimes life is terribly black and white. Often the choices we have to choose among are not good, clear or easy. That's why it requires so much courage to do what we think is right; and why we so often cannot summon that courage. It isn't that someone should be condemned for not doing what's right but that there are always consequences even if we don't see or suffer from them.
kgfreeperson
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"If you permit it--- you promote it."
by codeblue init is a very thought provoking comment.
when learning about the scandals and lies about the truth(tm)...is that how you feel?.
codeblue
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Well I Just Got Let Go! :(
by Yizuman inas of this morning at 6 am est, my boss came in to the store where i worked and told me that since "business was slow", he had no choice but to let me go.. .
i asked him why did he hire that new employee last week if business was slow??
he just looked at the counter and would not answer me.
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kgfreeperson
This is terrible. Can we help with more than advice? Let me know where to send it and I will mail a check right away. Or would a money order be better?
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The Preaching Work: A Colossal Waste of Time
by Scully in.
many people who post here have had similar experiences to my own: x number of years going door-to-door, informal witnessing, placing books, magazines, doing return visits, but having no one ever come into the truth?
by virtue of their efforts.. members of my own family who are still jws similarly have nothing to show for their trouble of regularly engaging in the ministry over many years (decades, actually).. any guesstimates out there as to how much of your life you wasted participating in the preaching work?
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kgfreeperson
I wonder how many JWs know it is all ridiculous but believe that Jehovah has for some reason set their feet on this path and they love Jehovah, so they do the best they can on the path?
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Should I be over it by now?
by astridkittie ini was 16 when i disassociated myself from the jws after growing up in it, and i'm 20 now and still having issues with breaking the thought process i was brought up with.
i long ago realized the doctrine was wrong in the jws, but somehow i still find myself having issues with guilt whenever i stop to feel or act or think a way that's my own and not what someone else tells me i should feel/act/think.
other times i feel completely lost because i don't know how i'm supposed to feel or act or think at the moment and i know that's not the way i should be thinking, that there isn't a particular way i'm supposed to be inside, but... i still have the paranoia and the gut feeling that i'm doing wrong by being myself, so to speak.
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kgfreeperson
You know, people are different. Some people, once convinced of the error of JW doctrine, just walk away. While they may be embarrassed at the nonsense they once accepted wholeheartedly, they are able to move into the larger world and do well. Others have learned ways of thinking that do not serve them well and, even though they are convinced of the error of JW doctrine, they are left with perceptions of the world and themselves that get in their way. (Paragraph) Sometimes it is helpful to remember that JWism is not the source of all the world's ills! Lots of people learn how to be in the world from very very dysfunctional families which are dysfunctional for lots of reasons. I think it would be very worthwhile to find a therapist to help you tease out and examine your basic assumptions about life and yourself and how one should operate in the world. That alone might very well get you started on "getting over" being raised a JW. At any rate--best of luck!
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Ann sounds like "McHuge", Australian singer/songwriter
by kgfreeperson ini just heard a song called "stupid" that for sure sounds like this woman had a brush with jehovah!
anybody know her?
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kgfreeperson
That does sound a little silly, doesn't it. What I meant was, does anyone know who I'm talking about, know her work?
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Ann sounds like "McHuge", Australian singer/songwriter
by kgfreeperson ini just heard a song called "stupid" that for sure sounds like this woman had a brush with jehovah!
anybody know her?
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kgfreeperson
I just heard a song called "Stupid" that for sure sounds like this woman had a brush with Jehovah! Anybody know her?
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"Comments You Will Not Hear at the 2/15/04 WT Study" by Blondie
by Gopher inin blondie's absence this week, i am posting the comments she sent me for the week's watchtower study.
since the article is mainly a statistical recap of jw statistics for 2003 (and basically the wts patting themselves on the back), this post is shorter than blondie's usual commentary.
comments you will not hear at the 2-15-04 wt study
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kgfreeperson
This is a circuit assembly weekend around here--will the faithful get this talk at the assembly? What's the C.A. message this time?
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Trying to Believe in Love
by Lori ini am new to this, and any form of online chat, but reading some of your postings inspired me to write.
i am even unsure how to check responses, but hopefully there will be some and i will learn.. i am completely torn.
i have met the man of my dreams, and was told the other day that we would not work because he was looking to the future and could not imagine putting up a christmas tree and lights in his home.. when we met, i knew he was raised a witness, but he assured me he had not been to meetings in 8 years because he did not "feel it".
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kgfreeperson
Keeping in mind that free advice is worth every penny . . . . I think you need to spend time with yourself figuring out how much misery you are willing to endure before it ends. I hope you will decide none and tell him that happy as you have been with him, as much as you love him and you believe he loves you, you are unwilling to play this game. Then be unavailable. Truth is, he thinks he's making a choice when he tells you you'll never marry but you keep on loving him. He needs to face the choice--mom and JW or you. He needs to be without you to understand what he's choosing. I'll just sit here hoping he doesn't go back home to mom!
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dissin' my daughter too?
by happy2b init's been a while since i've posted here.
nice to be back!!
i have a question....have any of you had this problem?........i ds'd myself about 6 years ago.
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kgfreeperson
'tis easier to dis a very young woman than an adult man?
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Alone and Lost. Please help me understand.
by Amy in PA inbackground information:first of all, i am not a jw.
i divorced my husband due to his alcohol addiction and because he repeatedly refused to seek help.
i could no longer carry the burden, and so after 30 years, i left.
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kgfreeperson
My heart goes out to you, Amy. All I have to offer is my sympathy--but I do think the advice to find an Al-Anon group to attend is worth considering!