Posts by kgfreeperson

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Fascinating development in sex-abuse cases!

by hornetsnest in

i dont get on here very often, but when i saw this i figured that you would like to know about it.

it seems that the catholic church here in oregon (u. s.

) is doing everything possible to shield its assets from the sex-abuse liability they have incurred.

kgfreeperson

Wow. The implications are mind boggling, aren't they.

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help my mother is brainwashing my 10 yr old

by squirlyboo in

ughhhhh, i left "the truth" when i was 16 i had my daughter when i was 18. while is was finishing college my mother watched my daughter for me , so they are very very close.

well whenever my daughter goes to visit usualy about a week at a time my mother takes her to the hall .

she fills her head with the doctrine and tells her that ill say bad things about it and scares her into not telling me about it .

kgfreeperson

What an awkward position to be in--but one many here have had to deal with. I think you'll find lots of support and advice here.

In the meantime, welcome to the forum!

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Dansk is in the hospital --- emails from Claire

by Alleymom in

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friends

dansk (ian) is in the hospital.

as you know, he posted to us on wednesday morning (after the tuesday night vigil) saying that he felt very bad.

claire ended up having to go home from work because he was feeling so weak and having some trouble breathing.. here are her emails.

Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal

by Gadget in

quite a while ago i mentioned to my parents about the un scandal but they didn't seem too interested, but when i called in the other day my mother mentioned it to me again.

they had a elder and his wife (family friends who i was previously very very close to) staying with them for the convention and discussed it with them.

the elders wife is a very strong personality and super-spiritual but when she heard of the scandal back in spring she had a huge problem with it.

kgfreeperson

Reading that Awake! excerpt, my first thought is that the folks at the UN didn't read what was submitted to them in support of the application.

All high control groups are essentially the same

by kgfreeperson in

i've just listened to an article on "the world" http://www.theworld.org/> "beijing's campaign of social control" .

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as i listened, i was amazed at how much it sounded like the actions of the watchtower in all its incarnations.

I've just listened to an article on "The World" http://www.theworld.org/> "Beijing's Campaign of Social Control"

As I listened, I was amazed at how much it sounded like the actions of the Watchtower in all its incarnations.

See what you think.

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Watchtower Haikus

by ColdRedRain in

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i'll start.

blood ideology.

a baseless doctrine, hark!, legalistic crusade, kills children quickly.

kgfreeperson

Whistles! Stamps floor! Wild applause!

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Another resource

by Justin in

strictly genteel - theocratic resources/skk theocratic library, a pro-jw site, now contains publications from the rutherford era, including: the finished mystery (1917), millions now living will never die (1920), the harp of god (1921), deliverance (1926), and creation (1927).

the russell writings are found on this site as well.

link: http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/

kgfreeperson

So why isn't the watchtower shutting them down?

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Intelligence Questions

by Simon in

try these (i think i got them right, i'll post my answers after other people have had a go as well):.

a bat and a ball cost 1.10 in total.

how many pence does the ball cost?

kgfreeperson

Only one I got was the doubling time. Sure hope I don't have to look for a new job any time soon!

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Has anyone else ever wondered about.........

by t297crazy in

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hi i have been reading everyone's posts for a few days.

i've been away from being jw for about 10 years, but only recently has it occured to me what a bunch of crap the whole thing is... i am still young, and so therefore it seems odd to me that all of my family are strong jw's.

especially my dad he was an elder), who i always associated with being a very intelligent person.

kgfreeperson

Not about my parents, but certainly about the few JWs I know. From my point of view, the "know too much" to believe this--but, obviously not. All, by the way, were "born in." I have decided that they have decided that, forwhatever His reasons, Jehovah wants them to follow this path, so they are following it.

But it is very painful to watch.

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My day at the assembly, er, convention

by Pistoff in

well, i could not avoid going today; a close friend got dunked and i had to go.. i was not even in my seat when i was already writing down egregious mind control bs: the first of the day and here it is:.

(verbatim) "obedience in the congregation to the elders is the same as obedience to jehovah personally".

my day got started with that puker.. ok, sit down and take more notes; not enough caffeine to take it straight.

kgfreeperson

They're right you know: respectful and cheerful obedience to the elders is what keeps you from independent thinking. The only way to keep your faith--that doing whatever the Watchtower says is the only way to please Jehovah--is to never think about any of this stuff. The only way to keep obeying the elders is to find a way to do it respectfully and cheerfully (otherwise you'll lose your faith that doing whatever the Watchtower says is the only way to please Jehovah.)

That, it seems to me, is the core belief--follow the Watchtower and its minions no matter what if you want to please Jehovah. It seems to me that people who manage to stay Jehovah's Witnesses accept the fact that Jehovah is capricious and crazy and possesses a terrible and easily triggered temper. So all this is an elaborate form of showing submission to the alpha animal.

Human beings are interesting, no?