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  Your View On Capital Punishment

  by Dutchie in

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  we all know the bible's view on capital punishment.

  in fact, in the 1969 edition of aid to bible understanding, the author notes the following: .

  "the value of life is considered so sacred by god that the blood of a murdered person is viewed by him as defiling the earth and such defilement can be cleansed only by shedding the blood of the murdered.

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  Beck,

  Thank you too for your response. I may have been overly reactive to plmkrzy's comments, but I'm a bit tired of the lawyer bashing that goes on over here. Lawyers perform a necessary function, and shouldn't be trashed for the few bad apples that are out there any more than law enforcement officials should. Plum's words speak for themselves, but she may not have intended them to come out that way.

  Plum, if you're reading this and didn't really mean to trash our legal system and legal professionals, then I'm sorry for being so defensive.

  You're right, I guess this "system of things" is really evil, and we'll have to wait for the "new system" for the 144,001 (that means me too) to start managing things for our benefit. I'm looking forward to the friendly lions and tigers and "sisters" and an eternity in the company of the "friends." Yes, hell I mean heaven on earth awaits us.
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  Your View On Capital Punishment

  by Dutchie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the bible's view on capital punishment.

  in fact, in the 1969 edition of aid to bible understanding, the author notes the following: .

  "the value of life is considered so sacred by god that the blood of a murdered person is viewed by him as defiling the earth and such defilement can be cleansed only by shedding the blood of the murdered.

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  Beck,

  I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to make. My comments were directed solely at the US legal system. I have no knowledge whatsoever of the Australian system, so I'll defer to you on that. There are unscrupulous attorneys here too, but the US system is certainly not as plmkrzy characterized it: "set up to protect the pockets of the Judges and the D.A's and the Lawyers and the Public Defenders and on and on and on. It is not set up to protect the citizens." Her comments did not address unscrupulous lawyers who take advantage of the system, rather, she disparaged the system itself. Our system is certainly not perfect, but it has proven to be one of the better systems for protecting the citizens and it is definitely not designed to place the interests of legal professionals over the interests of citizens.
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  HAPPY BIRFDAY, Megadude (aka Rat)

  by Joyzabel in

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  wow, the things you learn in chat!!

  happy birthday megadude.

  year of the rat!

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  144thousand_and_one

  Happy Birthday Mega! A year older, a year wiser, and a year to . . . get ripped!
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  JW CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS $$$$$$450,000

  by crawdad2 in

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  2. child-abuse

  are you a jw or exjw who is being abused, or has been?................

  you have until you are 20yrs old, to report it, and sue for damages......... some lawyers suggest around $$$$450,000.......four hundred and fifty thousand us dollars............ because of all the damage they did to you..................... if you have all the facts, .........the names and places...........and it's all legit.............i suggest way more for damages......... to help correct the problem.

  there are some good lawyers on this site.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Crawdad,

  Are you sober?
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  1981 Ph.D Thesis on JWs

  by JAVA in

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  i just got my hands on william zellner's 1981 thesis, of another world, the jehovah's witnesses.

  the 124-page work was in partial fulfillment of the requirements for a ph.d, through the sociology department at south dakota state university.

  zellner's work looks at how the witnesses recruit new members and retains the converts the last part of his abstract says:it is argued that the social characteristics of a group are more important in the conversion process than in the group's message.. .

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  Java,

  We addressed the subject of Jehovah's Witnesses in my college sociology course and it was very revealing. How do I obtain a copy of Mr. Zellner's thesis?
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  JW CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS $$$$$$450,000

  by crawdad2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  are you a jw or exjw who is being abused, or has been?................

  you have until you are 20yrs old, to report it, and sue for damages......... some lawyers suggest around $$$$450,000.......four hundred and fifty thousand us dollars............ because of all the damage they did to you..................... if you have all the facts, .........the names and places...........and it's all legit.............i suggest way more for damages......... to help correct the problem.

  there are some good lawyers on this site.

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  Hawkaw,

  Great points, especially about the statutes of limitations. I believe the criminal statutes of limitations tend to be longer than the civil ones, but I think there's a better source than me for information on this right on this board. Kimberlee Norris is an attorney who specializes in this type of case, and she is posting here under the name "Concerned Lawyer." She has already posted a good amount of information on the subject and may be a very good resource for someone considering their options.
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  How Do You Discipline YOUR Kids?

  by MrMoe in

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  curious... how do you discipline your children and why?

  spank or not to spank?

  are your kids brats (and be honest here.).

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  Dutchie,

  My approach is identical to yours and is also successful. It's challenging as you are constantly forced to adapt to changes that are a normal part of their growth. But the rewards of being a non-hitter are great, both in the love you receive from your child and also in the personal satisfaction of using your mind as opposed to physical punishment to resolve problems. But to each his own, parenthood is a difficult thing, and I won't judge others for the use of limited and minimal physical intervention.

  Edited by - 144thousand_and_one on 20 June 2002 14:41:46
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  JW CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS $$$$$$450,000

  by crawdad2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  are you a jw or exjw who is being abused, or has been?................

  you have until you are 20yrs old, to report it, and sue for damages......... some lawyers suggest around $$$$450,000.......four hundred and fifty thousand us dollars............ because of all the damage they did to you..................... if you have all the facts, .........the names and places...........and it's all legit.............i suggest way more for damages......... to help correct the problem.

  there are some good lawyers on this site.

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  Crawdad,

  No one is questioning the motivation of those who seek redress as it is irrelevant. However, your references to monetary compensation (i.e. $450K) are misleading. Victims should seek counsel from an appropriately qualified attorney, not someone who is absolutely incompetent as a legal advisor but uses large fonts.

  Edited by - 144thousand_and_one on 20 June 2002 14:25:26
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  JW CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS $$$$$$450,000

  by crawdad2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  are you a jw or exjw who is being abused, or has been?................

  you have until you are 20yrs old, to report it, and sue for damages......... some lawyers suggest around $$$$450,000.......four hundred and fifty thousand us dollars............ because of all the damage they did to you..................... if you have all the facts, .........the names and places...........and it's all legit.............i suggest way more for damages......... to help correct the problem.

  there are some good lawyers on this site.

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  144thousand_and_one

  JW victims of child molestation:

  The best source of information on your legal position is a lawyer with experience in this type of case. Although litigation may produce compensation and personal closure, there are negative aspects as well, including likely intense and sometimes humiliating questioning during depositions and the possibility of being required to testify in a trial. The settlement amounts bantered about here are not worthy of consideration as they are meaningless. Every case is unique, and settlements depend on many circumstances, including without limitation the motivation of the defendant to settle the case. Quantification of a standard settlement is impossible.

  Remember, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Make sure you do your homework before jumping into something you don't know about.
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  Your View On Capital Punishment

  by Dutchie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the bible's view on capital punishment.

  in fact, in the 1969 edition of aid to bible understanding, the author notes the following: .

  "the value of life is considered so sacred by god that the blood of a murdered person is viewed by him as defiling the earth and such defilement can be cleansed only by shedding the blood of the murdered.

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  plmkrzy,

  I find it hilarious how you constantly change the issue so as to avoid facing the reality that you made an offensive statement that had absolutely no support. You insulted legal professionals and disparaged our legal system and the Constitution upon which it is based. You provided absolutely zero facts to support your comments. Now you want to try to argue small points since you've failed miserably to defend the outrageous comments that precipitated this dialogue.

  Your tactics are very similar to those the Jehovah's Witnesses employ every time I discuss their faith with them. I guess they trained you well.