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  Are the Disassociated shunned?

  by NotBlind in

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  on a whim, i recently visited the jw media site and found this question in their beliefs faq at http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm:do you shun former members?those who simply leave the faith are not shunned.

  if, however, someone unrepentantly practices serious sins, such as drunkenness, stealing, or adultery, he will be disfellowshipped and such an individual is avoided by former fellow-worshipers.

  every effort is made to help wrongdoers.

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  As for disfellowshipped relatives not living in the same household, Jehovah's Witnesses apply the Bible's counsel: "Quit mixing with them." - - NotBlind (quoting WTS official web site)

  NotBlind,

  Good catch! The quote above really sickens me, as it is undoubtedly used by the blindly devout to justify shunning their children and other close family members who've been disfellowshipped. Any organization purporting to be a religion that mandates the shunning of one's own flesh and blood is really just a despicable cult whose tax exempt status ought to be reviewed.
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  Just to set the record str

  by Legendary U.2.K. in

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  i do not have a religion / i'm not a jehovah's witness( / i do not read from the wt bible / i only read from the king james version which infact in future times i planned on having gold covers / i do infact have plans to change the world for millions(sooner then ya think) / i wanna lived like noah, obey and become righteous and survive the impossible(armageddon) and that's what i plan on doing, cause i live forever, survive up to the messiah's coming / i lose people daily cause in reality we all are family / i lost some close family members while back that's why i posted that 9/11 topic, i been though rough times, all i was trying to do is help / i have'nt been to a kingdom hall or church in about 15 years / i study at home with my gf and we ask the father & son for help and the help is always there / i only hate evolution & science / there is a differance between science & man's work / i dont believe in the trinity, cause millions speak from their tongues that the trinity do exist, but the righteous servants of the lamb(prophet) understood that jesus was not god, therefore it's impossible for any man in our time to know more then jesus disciples / america is not the greatest, god's throne is the only greatest / times that are bad and times that are ignorant and times that are unrighteous we shall overcome it and for be'hold our loving creator create new heavens & a new earth wherein we lived and the future is bright and the wicked fall quick and the good ones us we are the children of the light that light forever and we stay and lived forever and the dead rise up to enjoy the new creation that the father hath made for us......edited by - legendary u.2.k.

  on 12 september 2002 16:52:6.

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  144thousand_and_one

  You could have said all that with much fewer words by just stating that you are a mental case.
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  Short truth about 9/11, Truth hurts you know!

  by Legendary U.2.K. in

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  " we are the cause of our destruction *(it's quoted different in the bible) / i believe that 9/11 was a bad day, we cry & mourn & move on, we get over it, i got over 9/11 in under 24 hours & to be honest i'm sick of hearing about it.... now i also understand that millions was not paying attention before 9/11 & they still aint paying attention.. if people would wake the hell up and read the bible they would already know that god already warn us to listen to him, and be on guard 24/7 cause that devil which we call satan exist and on the move to overthrow billions........ where is your faith?

  jesus clearly said that not to sorrow for the dead, cause they will get resurrected when the messiah comes back- john 5 verse 28,29.. so get over it and heed jesus words....

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  Legendary,

  You dumb cluck. Get over it? We'll learn to get over it when you attain literacy.
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  What Is Your Favorite Overlooked Movie?

  by gilwarrior in

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  what i am talking about a movie that you thought was great, but is mostly forgotten by most people today.. well, my favorite overlooked movie is "a perfect world.

  " in it kevin costner is an escaped felon who escapes from prison with another felon.

  they then break into a house and kidnap a boy who is a (gasp!

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  10,000 Maniacs - what a trip that film was!
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  USA / California / San Diego / Friends (deaf/ASL)

  by Ormond in

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  do you sign language asl?.

  if yes i will meeting you for .

  jehovah's ormond church!.

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  Ormond,

  Don't hold your breath. There may be a few folks here who can converse in ASL but I doubt that any of them will want to attend JW meetings.
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  DID YOU EVER LEARN anything because you were a JW?

  by minimus in

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  was there ever anything positive from being a witness?

  could you say that because you were a witness at least......or was it all negative?

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  I learned that life isn't fair.
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  brutalized toddlers

  by little witch in

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  2. experiences

  does anyone remember the advice from from the stage, encouraging mothers to remove babies from the room when they were hungry?.

  how about, wooden spoons to beat toddlers into submission, preferably in front of the congegation, as to set an example in disipline?

  was this just in our hall, or was it from the borg?

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  Whenever I've raised this issue with dubs, they always deny it. Yet I can clearly remember beatings being a normal part of the lifestyle for children of JWs. The worst that I remember was the district conventions at Dodger Stadium (Los Angeles) that were usually held in the middle of the summer, when LA sizzles. Kids were expected to sit for 8 hours a day on hard, unpadded seats, in temperatures frequently in the 100 degree range. The concession areas were filled with parents beating children who couldn't sit still under those conditions. I can remember seeing multiple parents in the same area, striking their children with belts, wooden spoons, paddles, switches, you name it, they brought their punishment implements with them to the assembly where they knew they'd get a chance to use them. Since this activity occurred on grounds that the WTS had control over as the lessee, and they did nothing to stop it from occurring, I am of the opinion that the WTS condoned it. This is supported by their continual regurgitation of the "spare the rod spoil the child" line.

  The failure of the Jehovah's Witnesses to provide day care for children at meetings and at assemblies is a horrendous reflection of the priority Jehovah's Witnesses place on the interests of their children. It is indeed a shame that many more children will be raised in this manner.
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  Leave that Gameboy at home when visiting Greece...

  by Xander in

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  that's right folks, all video and computer games are now banned in greece!

  edited by - xander on 4 september 2002 10:53:53.

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  You can't mandate better physical fitness.-- Hmmm

  Maybe not, but there's nothing wrong with encouraging it through legislation. Poor physical fitness of the populace results in substantial medical costs for the government. That is certainly a compelling government interest.

  Besides, they said it was because they wanted to curb online gambling and admitted they were too clueless to know the difference. Should they outlaw all automobiles to curb prostitution? - Hmmm

  If the social benefit of curbing prostitution exceeds the social cost of outlawing automobiles, then the answer to your question is yes.

  As I stated before, the people of Greece are responsible for making their own rules that they have to live with. If this game ban is not liked by the majority of the people, then those responsible for it will pay the price at the polls. We ought to respect other countries by showing them deference, especially on something as insignificant as this. The Greeks practiced democracy long before we did!
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  Leave that Gameboy at home when visiting Greece...

  by Xander in

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  that's right folks, all video and computer games are now banned in greece!

  edited by - xander on 4 september 2002 10:53:53.

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  I see nothing wrong with the Greek law regarding video games. If the people who live in Greece aren't happy with it, they will hold it's author(s) and supporters politically accountable. Also, the law could have the desirable effect of improving the physical fitness of the populace, by denying them an entertaining and leisurely attractive activity that encourages a sedentary lifestyle.
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  Mortality

  by DakotaRed in

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  at one time, nearly all of us held the thought that we would live forever.

  the thought of our being mortal and actually dying just wasnt there.

  deep inside, we all know we are going to die one day, but has the realization of the truth of that ever just hit you, right out of the blue?

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  Dakota,

  Having dealt with similar issues in my family, I can only advise not to take a single test too seriously. We've seen plenty of false alarms over here. In any event, it couldn't hurt to eat right and exercise regularly. Take care of yourself!