I had an aunt that was/is applying to go. I asked her why she has to apply? If she has to go on her own dime and find her own accomodations, then what exactly is she waiting for?
Posts by Aroq
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26Campaign to Israel
by humanperson ini have been wanting to introduce myself but i don't know where to begin.
my husband and i are enjoying our third guilt-free weekend of our lives (both born-in, almost 30).
he has been out mentally for the last year and a half but patiently waited for me to come around.
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Glaring discrepency in Blood Doctrine
by kjg132 ini found an article on the dr. sears website about the benefits of breasfeeding.
according to the article it says: "a drop of breastmilk contains about one million white blood cells.
" it also says "colostrum also contains higher amounts of white blood cells..........than mature milk.
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Aroq
OneEyedJoe, that was exactly what I was going to say. The other part is, where in the Bible does it distinguish fractions of blood?
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Non-JWs: Concerned friend or family is getting involved with Jehovahs Witnesses?
by Londo111 indear non-jw:.
do you have a friend or family member who is studying?
there are definitely valid reasons to be concerned, be it shunning, the many failed doomsday predictions, the risks of refusing blood transfusions, the organizations unrepentant mishandling of child abuse, the stance of higher education, holidays, and everyone outside the organization.. however, how you express your concern to them could make all the difference.
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Aroq
J-DUBBED, with God anything is possible.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are the only people who don't practice war and who preach worldwide!
by EndofMysteries inthis is what somebody has been telling me, trying to convince me aside from anything one can say or cause reason for doubt, as the evidence that they are the true religion and true people of god.
they are convinced because while 'all other' christian and other religions support war, troops, etc, jw's don't and they are the only one's who carry god's name and preach.
nothing else matters.
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Aroq
Jw's WILL go to war, according to their own publications. If one takes a close look, you will see that in the end JW's will be going to war with other "perfect" JW's. Follow this for a moment:
According to the WT the only ones to survive the GT are JW's, right?
"Armageddon will bring this wicked system of things to an end. Satan’s world will be out of the way, but the earthly part of Jehovah’s organization will survive."" ---http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014367?q=Armageddon&p=par
"Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah’s universal organization."-http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006366?q=Are+You+Prepared+for+Survival&p=par
"The Bible also uses the term “ day of judgment ” to refer to the event that will bring the present system of things to its end. This day of judgment will come as suddenly as the Flood of Noah’s day , which swept away an entire wicked generation. Happily, the imminent destruction of “ungodly men” will clear the way for a new earthly society in which “righteousness is to dwell.”—Read 2 Peter 3:6, 7, 13." ---http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012645?q=judgment+day&p=par
"Jesus will judge people of all nations as sheep or goats when he comes during the great tribulation. Then, at Armageddon, the climax of the great tribulation, the goatlike ones will be ‘cut off’ forever" --http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013530?q=goatlike+ones&p=par
So who's left according to the WT after Armageddon? Just the JW's in the org.
OK, so now lets look at who these JW's are.
" However, not all will be willing to conform to God’s will. Isaiah 26:10 says: “Though the wicked one should be shown favor, he simply will not learn righteousness. In the land of straightforwardness he will act unjustly and will not see the eminence of Jehovah.” These wicked ones will be put to death permanently during Judgment Day.— Isaiah 65:20 .
By the end of Judgment Day, surviving humans will have “come to life” fully as perfect humans. (Revelation 20:5) Judgment Day will thus see the restoration of mankind to its original perfect state. (1 Corinthians 15:24-28) Then a final test will take place. Satan will be released from his imprisonment and allowed to try to mislead mankind one last time."----http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102005158
So the JW's will be restored to perfection, and only they have survived. What is this final test? Oh, that is where Satan is released to gather some of who is left after Armageddon (Perfected JW's remember) FOR WAR!
Revelation 20: 7 When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.
This false belief that they will not go to war is incorrect based on their own publications.
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JWs and Exclusivity
by Don Schneider injesus, mark 9-40 (nwt).
the jehovahs witnesses assert exclusivity.
that is, they are the only true christian faith.
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Aroq
Again, it is a very good question. I'm not sure if you will get a complete answer from a Jw in good standing, be cause it will require them to step outside of the WT and addres the issue.
I am very happy you brought this up as I too will ask this, in hopes of getting an answer. If I do get one I'll be sure to send it your way.
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JWs and Exclusivity
by Don Schneider injesus, mark 9-40 (nwt).
the jehovahs witnesses assert exclusivity.
that is, they are the only true christian faith.
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Aroq
you will get what you are looking for and you will get the opposite as well. You just have to filter through the comments. There are plenty here that can and will answer what you are asking. This place is a mixture of all and that is exactly what you are going to get.
Stick around and find out. There is valuable information here.
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JWs and Exclusivity
by Don Schneider injesus, mark 9-40 (nwt).
the jehovahs witnesses assert exclusivity.
that is, they are the only true christian faith.
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Aroq
Excellent question and welcome. Thank you for this little nugget.
From thier own literature, it is said that without their direction, you could not understand the scriptures. So maybe you just aren't thinking the way they are.
Or maybe it is becasue those who are in the Org are sooo much closer to Jehovah.
Again, it could be that in those times the org was in its infantcy and thus that specific preacher had not yet come in, but would very soon.
Or the most logical conclusion is IT'S A CULT.
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Witnesses and care of the elderly
by Lynnie inmy uber jw mother fell and broke her arm a couple of weeks ago.
first off no one told me until 5 days later when i called to check in with her.
there was someone staying with her at the time but that person was going to have to go elsewhere for a week.
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Aroq
Sadly, it appears she is of no use to them now. This has been my observation, one is only looked to for what they can give and once that is gone so is the support.
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WT for this Sunday...You are My Witnesses
by Legacy inwt 7/15/2014....page 27...question # 17...what will we consider in the next article...paragraph 17...but how can we be jehovah witnesses and at the same time be witnesses of jesus....well well well...i think they really got the point...all through the greek scriptures, that's what jesus has been saying...we are to witness about him....in the hebrews scriptures was about jehovah god, most of the world got that.
now jehovah, put another spoke in the wheel his son...jesus...that's who paul has been talking about all along...that he was witness of jesus, paul knew who god was.
i think the society monitors sites like these & others & found out....they may have been, uh...wrong....wonder how are they going to spin this one off....i won't read the next article just yet... comments anyone ..... legacy.
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Aroq
I read the article and it gives no answer other than being a witness of Jesus is basically being a witness of Jehovah's "new feature", thus Jehovah. This is their spin. It all comes back to the denial of Jesus. Jesus said to be a witness of Him and what He had done. This would give glory to God. The articel clearly admits that Jesus did not say to be a witness of Jehovah, but rather Himself.
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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!
by BucketShopBill inwant to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?
only in the jw mindset!!!.
we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.
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Aroq
You are the one to allow this to happen. You give them the control over you.