well, it has come to another fork in the road.
i have been going to other meetings and skipping more.
car groups and two bros tried stopping by my house recently but i was not home or gates were locked.
You have been given good advice here. Our situation was different from yours. I was Df'd unjustly and planned my exit so I could record my JC for my loved ones and help others going through a JC. But your situation is very different, you know TTATT and you both want to leave.
I can understand that due to the fact it is a cult, there is something that pulls us in. Once we recognise this we can release the bonds and break free.
Let us know how you get on. Take care
Kate xx
its been a very eye opening experience for me to find out that the god of the bible is as real as thor or ra.
i still believe a higher power created life but can see now how it doesn't really care about us.
so with this in mind realizing one has only 70-80 years to live and that may be just it, is very stunning..
I still believe a higher power created life but can see now how it doesn't really care about us.-crazyguy
I am the same. It was a gradual thing for me. I wouldn't say I was atheist though. The adjustment to change in beliefs was a natural progression. The things I saw and heard inside the WT lead me to first of all believe that holy spirit was not directing elders and then by extention not guiding the GB. Once I was out the WT, I prayed a lot for holy spirit to help with our family circumstances, to no avail. This was when I gradually changed my belief that God doesn't care about anyone.
So I would say that it wasn't a case of coping with new beliefs. I just believe what I believe, and my kids believe what they believe.
Kate xx
i have seen many witnesses with 4,5,6,7 kids.
no problem with that.
they are mostly loving families but today i experianced the birth of my son.. the emotions of my wife... the pain... the fear... the hope combined with the joy of the birth and seeing my wife reaction when she held the baby was well balanced.. .
Congratulations, having children is the most rewarding experience I have had in my life. My eldest is going to be 21 tomorrow and I can't believe it paased so quickly. Make every second count. don't take cofty so seriously the sleepless nights only last a few months, and its worth it.
Having said that my daughter woke me up at midnight the other day because she had something on her mind and needed some comfort from her mum.
Congratulations again. All the best.
Kate xx
i've been wanting to ask your advice for ages on this subject and here goes.. my mum is a jw fanatic, she just reads the bible and the publications, no other books at all.
she is a functioning alcoholic.. she is so disappointed in me.
i married out of the truth, you see!!!.
Some people are constantly critical. I get on well with my parents, but they can sometimes be critical, I normally pull them when they say something that's not constructive and I highlight that I don' treat my kids that way. They get the point, and we move on.
My daughter was a princess to my dad. She could ask grandpa absolutely anything and get it. Things changed after she moved in for a while and he also started becoming critical with her. She handles it well and tells him to stop. This is family relationships, we say what is on our minds because we feel comfortable, my daughter sometimes criticises her grandparents too.
What is important is open lines of communication and telling our loved ones how we feel when we are criticised.
Didn't you have a lovely time in Egypt? Do you have some positive memories? Is she really that bad?
Kate xx
so the next time you are in a group of witnesses and discussion about a sad event where people died occurs (such as a car accident, natural disaster etc), just casually say:.
" oh well, that's a few less people jehovah has to kill at armageddon.....so don't be upset!...at least they now get a resurrection".
that will make witnesses think!.
It's very noble of you to try and help other JWs to think, but generally they don't. Something has to affect them personally for them to really think about the WT. But keep trying you never know. Kate xx
i have been trying to install into my oldest daughter my thoughts on being productive in life.
she is a late riser.
i am an early riser along with my youngest daughter.
I have always been an early riser, doing all my housework before I go out to work, or pioneering for the day. My daughter at about 14 went through a phase of being a grumpy riser, on her days off she wakes up at lunch time. she has no responsibilities, except for work and she is always punctual.
I don't think it's a problem, different people function in different ways. As long as our kids know the lines of communication are open and we can be there for them. If we are busy give them a time we are free. My kids always come to me with their troubles, they come at the right time for them, early risers or not.
Kate xx
the feeling that you're never good enough.
the feeling that you're wicked and evil.. .
because i'd give anything not to feel this way.
Yes, it went away for me quite quickly. I had a bad experience with my JC and when posters on here told me that they were wrong, I realised that I was right about the injustices that I had experienced. The feelings just went away.
Are you thinking of leaving? When and how? Do you have an exit plan?
Kate xx
http://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.
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https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.
Well this is a turn for the books. JWs are becoming more selfish. Usually they bend over backwards to make sure they're not upsetting the nieghbours, but I have to say I am not surprised some individual JWs can be exceedingly self absorbed, it seems to be spilling over to the public arena.
Kate xx
many of my church leaders have inisisted that short hair for men is a strict scriptural doctrine, and not to be argued against.
what do people think?.
In my opinion religions try and control women and the vulnerable. Don't let yourself be controlled over something as silly as hair. Kate xx
she said, "so, what made you decide to study this book?
at this point, she opened with a prayer.
"...and some decide that such questions are best left to religious leaders and teachers.
When JWs study with someone it's all about the JW, they really don't give a crap about the person other than what's in it for them.-sparrowdown
I would disagree with this, some JWs are really genuine and are sincerely trying to do what's in the best interests of their students. I cared a lot about my students and now that I have left WT, those strong genuine bonds stil remain. Not all JWs are fake and selfish, some are doormats just trying to do the right thing.
Kate xx
