SadElder

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  Went To The Quick Build

  by Undecided in

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  21 years ago

  i just returned from the building site of the new kh.

  i had never seen a quick build.

  it kind of made me sad, i saw so many old friends that i used to know.

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  Have been involved with several congs. over the years. While the method varies from state to state, the local group owns the Hall. In some states the local cong. forms a corporation which holds title to the Hall via that entity. Brooklyn does not own or have title. When loans are made Brooklyn holds the deed as a pledge against the debt. The deed is forwarded to the congregation once the loan is paid.

  BTW interest is no longer charged on the loans the society makes. This stopped several years ago. At one time they charged 6% interest then dropped to 3%, then no interest. I think they got quite a bit of heat over charging interest on money that was donated for the express purpose of building halls.

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  Ted Jaracz resigns from Governing Body

  by funkyderek in

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  21 years ago

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  gotcha!.

  april fool

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  Is that because he is the new head of the C.I.A.?

  Not new. He's been the head of the Bethel CIA (AKA Service Dept) for years.

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  Anyone interested in cyber sex?

  by RubyTuesday in

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  21 years ago

  now that i have your attention.

  with the total anonymity available on-line, is it truly cheating, to flirt with, tease, or even "have sex" with someone via your computer?

  is this the same as actually committing adultery, or is it just generally "harmless" fun?

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  Didn't you know that you can be disfellowshipped for phone or cyber sex??

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  Death of a child

  by wtphobic in

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  21 years ago

  what kind of person tells his non jw granddaughter that the death of her infant son is a "sign of the times"?

  i don't know his staus in the org, but i know that "the pressure" is now on to convince her of the error of her ways- even been suggested that had she been a jw- this might not happen....unbelieveable- please- help me understand the twisted jw stand on death and dying and grieving

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  What kind of person

  an idiot!

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  Would you ever shun?

  by ozziepost in

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  21 years ago

  i was asked that question today, or words just like it, is it ever right for a christian to shun?.

  don't the scriptures instruct it?.

  well, what would your answer be?

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  There are several elders that I shun. Their conduct disproves their professed faith, so I absolutely refuse to acknowledge them, and have told them so. Should have seen the look on their faces when I told them they were disfellowshipped as far as I was concerned. Interesting how they won't look me in the face now, but run like scared dogs.

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  the king of the north

  by Curious Mind in

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  21 years ago

  what is the latest incarnation of the king of the north in dubland as i had an elder tell me on sunday that the muslim nations were the king now.

  i had not heard that before and it seems to me that they are just pulling anybody out of their arse as the king as they become more influential, how many times are they going to get it wrong before people wake up to it?

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  Perhaps the real King of the North is the Bethel CIA (aka Service Department) with Ted Jaracz as vassal King.

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  Just wait until they find out the elders won't let them have a KH Funeral..

  by Elsewhere in

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  21 years ago

  only baptised jws in good standing can do that....

  http://www.redding.com/top_stories/local/20040330toplo012.shtmlcrash kills off-road racer .

  mom says he was near lead, may have pushed too hard .

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  It's true the local body will decide, based on the "notariety" of a particular case, whether or not the KHall can be used. As to a funeral at a Funeral Home, that generally is left up to the individual elder, though some hard-nosed congregations might like to have some say or all the say.

  In the past I have done funerals for some who others might not have, suicides, etc. However I believe funerals are for the living. Caring for people is our real assignment, I think, from Jehovah. Non-JW, JW, fading JW. All have the need for kindness and fellow-feeling. Something the WTBS is sorely missing these days.

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  2003 Watchtower Library CD

  by nicolaou in

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  21 years ago

  has it even been released?

  ta muchly.

  nic'

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  We've had the 2003 edition for about a month, courtesy of some Bethel friends.

  The new twist this year is links to maps. Click on a Biblical city referenced in a publication and up pops the map from the new map booklet. Pull up the map booklet and click on a city name and up pops the reference in the Insight book(s).

  Also still included is the pronounceable names section.. Click on a Bible name and you have the option to hear the name pronounced.

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  The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society is...Outsourcing

  by truthseeker in

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  21 years ago

  i received news from an elder i know in another congregation.

  he told me that things are changing in the way that bethel is running its operations.. i was informed that bethel no longer makes its own ink, but buys it from other companies.. even in the bethel kitchens, there is no more watchtower chicken - meat is bought from outside, this i believe also goes for milk and dairy products too.. can anyone confirm this?

  i have reason to believe it is probably true.. i wonder what would happen if the wt suppliers go out of business?

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  SadElder 21 years ago

  Lyman Swingle was once in charge of making the ink

  ... hence his long-time nick name "inky Swink"

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  What is WT procedure for ...

  by Galimo in

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  21 years ago

  what would be the correct and approved procedure for a "prodigal" son or daughter to come back to the society?.

  i have this ex-girlfriend who is also babtized and lived a very wild life outside the organization, without ever getting kicked.

  she moved a lot from city to city so nobody really noticed or knew.. now she said she repents and found jehova again and is going back.. live and let live, fine with me.. lol.. i only had written correspondence in the last decades with her.. i remarked that the proper way would be for her to go to the elders and "confess" all her sins.

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  SadElder 21 years ago

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