Maggie

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  I Need Ideas

  by TowerWatch in

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  i am working on a david letterman type of ?top ten list?

  to publicize my seminars with local churches.

  sort of the top ten reasons a pastor would want his parishioners to become more familiar with the beliefs and practices of jehovah's witnesses.

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  Maggie

  Just a couple of comments:

  If you are going to speak about JW"s then tell only the truth. Pure facts...because if you paint them anyway but what they really are..then when the ones you are teaching, encounter JW"s, they, the householders, will appear to be foolish and you will appear to be even more foolish. For example: "they teach a different Jesus"...ever heard of a witness saying that? If they were confronted with that at a door....they would say something like...do you believe there is a different Jesus or two Jesus'...couldn't we agree that we both believe in the Jesus of the bible. Is there another to put faith in? So if you use an arguement like that, then it is your credibility that is at risk not that of the JW's. Just a couple of thoughts ...Maggie
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  What Motivates You to Expose the "Truth About the Troof" to Active JW's?

  by imallgrowedup in

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  while responding to another thread, i was thinking about how so many of us talk about trying to help "believing dubs" out from the clutches of the wt, while at the same time, it occurred to me that we probably all have different motivations for doing so.

  as for me, i am motivated to get my parents out because i think they have the right to know "the whole story" - not just the candy-coated version the wt espouses, so they can make better decisions about how they want to live the rest of their lives.

  right now the wt makes all their life decisions for them - including whether or not they should look at what the "other side" has to say about them.

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  Hi to those from Pathway's ..not to mess up the cyber waves but, I miss all you at Pathway's too. I hurt for Timothy...do you think the forum's were getting too touchy..i was really enjoying the one on Baptism and the one on Kindness...love to you all and know you are missed.

  As far as this question..I spent many many years trying to convince people of something....It will be a long time before I ever ever ever do that again....I am living my life and enjoying it and don't want to live anyone elses or try to get them to understand anything. Just my thoughts

  Have a wonderful day it is a new one and we need to rejoice in it ... Maggie
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  My heart is ripped out !!

  by Puternut in

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  i am absolutly miserable !.

  i am a newbie here, some of you have seen my posts.

  and for those of you, who are old timers, this is no news to you.

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  Just so you know you aren't alone..my husband and I were in the truth 30+ years 20+ years as pioneers, serving where need was great...living only for the truth...to find the same that you did...our marriage broke up along with it....children involved etc. It has been a couple years and we are still healing but, believe me it does get better and you meet other people, many who really do understand what you are going through or what you have been through...take care and remember Jehovah is God, not a man made organization...he created all things..including us...take courage....look to the creation for proof of what life is really about and how loving a creator we have....Maggie
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  What would JWs do if... (my first post)

  by Segg in

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  what would jws do if all the members of the governing body were assassinated?

  do you think they would have serious doubts that jehovah was truly with them?

  would the whole organization fall apart?

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  Maggie

  It would be as others say, Satan is attaching and isn't that just what we would expect, the spin zone, why do you ask?
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  Is anyone a christian evolutionist?

  by Panda in

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  just asking because my church of christ friend says you cannot be both.

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  Russell was just watch the foto drama of creation!
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  Hidden Talents

  by Paradise Found in

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  did being a witness bring out any hidden talents in you.

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  Panda, I can't agree with you...you were always to loving to do that....I miss you...if anyone one used to guilt trip on you it was us.....remember how you told us that if we smoked we would go out and have a cig too...maybe we all should have...maggie
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  Anybody hear about the new confidential letter sent to bodies of elders in

  by researcher in

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  canada re the freedom of information act.

  when someone moves to a new congregation a letter of introduction is sent.

  usually the elders use this opportunity to list all the negative things about the person or family so they have a black cloud above them for years to come in their new hall.

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  If love is what we look for then why would we ever have to worry that something could come back to bite us in the butt, because according to Jesus we do all things for love and with the love of the Christ in our hearts. maggie
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  A couple of questions about summer conventions (spinoff)

  by razorMind in

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  2. experiences

  being as i haven't been to a convention in years, i have a couple of questions:

  do they still come out with that list of special-jw-rate hotels at the service meeting for the summer conventions?

  also, i remember times when the list would be practically useless by the time my parents got home from that service meeting and started trying to make reservations.

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  When my husband and I were special pioneers and working two or three assemblies each summer ...we knew of the comp rooms.They generally were given to WT reps or CO DO, the arrangement is this; for every so many rooms that are booked they receive comp rooms. So if it is a 200 room establishment then they might get as many as four rooms free for the time of the assembly. We received those rooms if we worked more than one convention....Summer convention not 2 day assembly...this was a help for us as we were special pioneers and not allowed to work a job. I have to say that one time we were at a convention working the second or third one I can't remember...but, they told us it was a comp room and then they wanted us to donate the amount of the room to the WT society and of course we did although we had not the funds or the budget to do. Of course we were never allowed to tell anyone about those things. This is one of those things that is swept under the rug, hoping that no one will ever ask about it or understand how it works. Not that it is wrong it is all business and business is not wrong. If we can make a good deal then we should but, I feel that it should all be above board and that everyone should have full knowledge about what is actually happening and then they can decide to be a part of it or not. Truth is truth ...lies can be lies of omission...see the WT for further clarification of what a lie of omission is....Maggie
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  What do jws say about cave art?

  by badboy in

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  i presume they say it was done after the global flood because mud and such-like would have obliterated(sp?

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  Well Panda...I think you have it right for the most part...I was just in a cave in Texas that also had alot of information about their birthing room and how much they relied on the Shaman's ...It is interesting because it is a cave where they gave birth (the women that is), so it was about the belief of spirits in the child and those surrounding it. Just thought you would like to know and Panda if you ever want to go to some of those caves just call me and I'll be there...As far as what the WT has to say, they accept what is fact and try to make the rest of the facts fit into their picture of what is and should be...as always if it doesn't fit well just chew it up and put the spin on it to make it work...that works for me! Maggie
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  Were Most Of The Elders "On The Ball" In Your Congregation?

  by minimus in

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  i think most of the elders relied on the "smart ones" to help them out.

  my experience was that there was probably 2 or 3 "sharp ones".

  the rest were dopey!

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  I have to agree with Core...it seems that the really good and sincere Elders spent so much of their time cleaning up and doing the right thing for the rest of the elders that would make a mess that they burn out. It is sad but, these pther men are not really qualified to have the power that they have over the lives of others. I know of all too many elders that were concerned with doing the right thing and that caused them to loose their eldership as the rest of the elders did not or do not want to have to uphold the standards that Christ set before them. Ever seen an elder that might have problems with gluttony or perhaps something else but, it is never dealt with...we all have our imperfections but, are they not an example to us? Few and far between are the fine elders that have been able to keep heart and last in the organization. Maggie