Posts by primitivegenius

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Mother wants me to leave!!!!

by why??? in

hi everyone, hope all is well.

i've been reading and posting here for a little while about my situation.

well it has just reached another high point.

ok dont know the situation......... except for what youve said on this thread............. my advice is to speak with your bf...... tell him what your mom has said....... and that if he calls and she is there you wont take his call and will act like you have broken it off with him........ refuseing to speak to him and telling your mom to just hang up....... letting her be as nasty as she will.

speaking with your bf and makeing this decision TOGETHER will make him feel he has a say in it all........ then you can figure out how to work it. some ground rules for handleing your mother......... it all comes down to what you want and what your willing to do to get it. if you cant support yourself while in school and are almost ready to graduate then do what you gotta do......... if you dont wanna be dfed....... swapping congs is a way you can avoid this........ just NEVER let the elders in the new cong know where you live or your new phone number. as far as thats concerned i would swap congs a couple of times and pretend its job related or school related why you had to move twice........ then just end it.

they can only df you if your doing something they can catch you at........ if your married......... sex is legal...... as long as its with your spouse..... but it would be a good idea to be living where no one knows who you are.

i dont know how you can work it out so that you can spend time with your BF untill you graduate but hes gotta be willing to make the extra effort in pulling the wool over your moms eyes... and not show up at your house and if he takes a risk by calling there........... if shes there hes gotta k now you will not speak to him and will pretend its over...........

hope you can get yourself established and get out from under her oppressive thumb as soon as possible

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Husband talking about having kids, reading awake to me, keeps asking ???

by cognac in

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so, first he calls me at work, we've been getting along fine, and asks me the % of how much i want to be in the truth.

i told him 50/50.

i like the spiritual aspect of it, the people, etc.

primitivegenius

wow this is a dangerous situation your venturing into......... shark infested waters and all that

ok heres how it goes........ the society spends a hell of alot of time carefully crafting their articles...... just so they can HOOK the unwary. so yeah your gonna get a few fluffy articles that arent TO BAD and could even be enjoyable....... problem is that is how they start their indoctrination. they cant say what they truely want because no one in their right mind would want anything to do with it...... so basicly its just watered down poison....... which is still posion.

there are PLENTY of other publications that are NON jw that have articles that are actually WORTH shareing with your spouse, that arent intended to indoctrinate but just to educate or to bring you closer together, so look out for some of those instead. the fluffy articles in the awake are designed to make you think that the society is innocent... and can be good in some fashion, but you really have to look to the actual bible and how jesus did his teaching......... he didnt try to fool people. true he would use illustrations to get the point across but he didnt carefully calculate silly fluff articles to suck people in......... sure the awake is the lesser of two evils..... but they are still both evil. personally i just about ALWAYS read the awake........ and mostly passed on the watchtower... kept me in line for years.

the real danger is children, take your time........ seriously. what is gonna happen is if you have children with this dub....... then thats when he starts useing them against you......... and i would say theres a better than 80% chance of that happening....... thats how the jws do it......... they control you through manipulation and guilt. but beyond that..... he is gonna start hateing you.... why? because unless your by his side extolling his virtues at every meeting......... the elders will look at you and say....... hes not qualified to be a ms or and elder because he dosent preside over his own family properly............ cause your not danceing to their tune and saying yes sir to all their cockamamie ideas. so because he will feel that your sabotageing his goals..... even tho you are NOT doing that....... hes gonna start feeling diferently toward you.

when your eyes get opened to the TRUTH about the so called "one true relgion" its shocking......... and your realizations just grow and grow with time........ so give it some time....... and you will in all likelyhood become like more of us here............. i wont have a *&^%$# *&^%$#@ publication in my house, other than those i can use against them. and my son...... oh my god.... he will never have to listen to their bulls&&&.

hope things work out postively for yourself........... and again take your time

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Wife has gone back to the Organization...what can I expect??

by Shadow1 in

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my wife and i have been married for just over one year.

while we were just dating, she had told me that she used to belong to the jehovah's witnesses, but no longer had those beliefs.

i thought i could handle all of this (i am a non- believer), but she has since got back to the org (all her family belong as well).

primitivegenius

my condolences shadow............

her going back is gonna totally change your relationship......... as was pointed out you will come WAY down on her priority list. anything the governing body says......... she will probably do, irrationally.

whats in your future? her family and friends will try to "love bomb" you into going to meetings and starting a bible study. one thing you MUST remember is that this attention although it is nice in the beginning and makes you think that the jws are good people..... it will quickly go away. then their true nature will come out.......... and they will start judgeing you...... on how your dressed..... is it to fashionable(worldly) is your hair to long........ is it to short..... is it in a "fadish" style. do you drive a 4 door car...... did you put in your montly 10 hours in feild service....... the list will go on forever....... then they will judge you as bad association if your not kissing their asses... then everyone else will get invitations to partys but your not spiritual enough..... and thus your wife will be judged according to you..... which could make her VERY upset with you if you dont jump through their hoops.

if you do decide to study with her....... ONLY study with her..... not any of her elders. they will rush to try and study with you.......... but the only good thing that can come out of a study with her is to undermine her faith. there are questions you can ask her..... that she cant answer...... so she will have to ask the elders..... who cant answer them........... and they will either reconize them as apostate questions and take action.. or send them to headquarters and they will reply back no answers either......... and will be sure to tell them that those questions are apostate questions......... and then they will treat you like an appostate..........

look at the threads here and see if you can find questions that will SPECIFICLY make her think........ or things that will make her doubt. and maybe....... just maybe when the elders cant answer them.....(cause it would make the society look bad) she will see the light and realize what a mindcontrolling cult they are.

good luck

11

Amazon Kindle

by littlerockguy in

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i broke down and ordered an amazon kindle out of weakness.

i just couldn't resist!

i love new technology and gadgets that make life easier.

primitivegenius

question........... does it let you put...... lets say and ebook directly into it from your personal computer? if so there are plenty of place you can download some ebooks for free.

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new BS assignment, new threats.

by inkling in

ok, so after about 2 months of straight absence from my bookstudy, the elders shuffled me off.

apparently my current (actually quite kind, if a bit clueless) bs overseer was.

not being enough of a nazi.. my newly assigned bs has a (aforementioned in another post) dimwitted, socially obtuse, and.

primitivegenius

tell the mother fracker that you are astounded that the society is joining the ranks of telemarketers........ to the same response.... an unanswered phone.

ok i got a question............. is this NEW? cause about lets see........... i havent been to a meeting in 4 plus years ...... um.......... say 8 to 10 years ago, my cong started this same s***. if someone who was assigned to your bookstudy missed the meeting the conductor would either call them himself or assign someone to make the call....... well was more like ...... ok brothers and sisters......... brother or sister X Y and Z werent here tonight...... would anyone like to volunteer to check up on them tonight?

that lasted several months before it just died out....... only the true zealots (my father and thus without choice me lol) made the calls EVERY WEEK(or just allowed others to do so as the case may be) the others just called their friends and couldnt give a rats arse for anyone else. i do not remember if it was at the insistance of a CO or if it was just the new PO trying to be a hardass

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30 y/o Bros from TX move to FL, have a party with 16 y/o Sisters!

by MinisterAmos in

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we here in the fl panhandle were "blessed" to have some 25 ish y/o brothers from tx move here recently.

they had the usual welcoming party two weeks ago, and all the young bros from mobile to fort waalton showed up to welcome them!

the only thing was, there was no elder to supervise!

primitivegenius

wonder if those brothers and i use that term loosely, have ever heard the term sexual predators?

pardon........ isnt that term synonymous with "ELDER"?

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OTWO and others with mates still in....please help!!!!!!

by oompa in

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i have always been a very social person with many friends....a bit of a partier my whole life.

my wife of 11 years is not like that, and not like me in so many other ways....but hey, we had the third cord in our marriage (not god...wt).

now since i am leper now, i have virtually no social life.

primitivegenius

ok your wife i take it is going to those 5 meetings a week correct? so what do you do while shes away? you have gotten loads of good options already on this thread and if you can schedule them while she is at the meetings then you wont be interfearing with the time she expects from you. probably will want to make those activities completely innocent since although you invite her........ she gonna pick the meetings.

make it seem comletely natural that you would find new things to do on meeting nights and college is a great place to start that way she will KNOW your not sneaking around doing things that she wouldnt approve of....... then after that whatever you choose......... she will be used to the idea that your gonna go have fun then.

activities are always gonna be prefered to the chance that you will sit at home and get drunk........... so i would think that she would be all for activites. care in chooseing which ones is needed since you would want to pick things that are as far away from drinking as possible. the AA family events that were mentioned might be absolutely a god send for this purpose.

good luck finding your social outlet

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Wow, I feel like an impulsive ass...

by Mincan in

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okay, so i'm talking to my friend on the phone, and i mention to her that i'm going to be asking my pyshiatrist for dexedrine next time i see him.

(i think i mentioned this intention other times, anyway, dexedrine is a brand name for the isolated d-isomer of amphetamine, dextroamphetamine, and it is marketed to treat adhd.

it was actually the first such stimulant to be marketed for this purpose, before ritalin and all the others.

primitivegenius

yo min...

i truely hope that your doctor will prescribe this stuff for you and that it IS a life changeing event for you.

personally tho i dont take ANYTHING my doctor dosent prescribe. I never have and i hope i never will........ i also recommend that you do approach your doctor.......... and im assumeing that you have had this doctor and have used him for a while and that he is competent, for all your medication needs.

you seen well informed about the drugs but there are always dangers and the doctor hopefully didnt sleep through med school and can give you the best of care.

your here asking for opinions.............. and look at what some of us fools have written.......... our opinins dont mean s***......... your doctors on the other hand does

good luck with the new meds and i truely hope they work wonders for you

PS. if they start makeing the watchtower and awake make sense to ya..... DISCONTINUE IMMEDIATELY lol

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I thought I would tell everyone here first... I'm going to prison

by Elsewhere in

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what i did was totally out of character for me.

i had a sharp pare of scissors in my hand and i was just so angry.

before i knew what happened i had thrust them forward... over and over... once i finally stopped i just couldn't believe the mess everywhere.

primitivegenius

Freud said ther were no real accidents, maybe yuo'd like a bang in the ass so you broke the law and removed the tags! LOL...JUst kidding!

lmao

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Interesting thing happened today with my father the PO.....

by oneairhead in

my father and i had lunch at a local restaurant.

before we eat we always pray.

before we were about to leave a man comes up to our table.

primitivegenius

hell maybe jehovah did send that gentleman over......... to show you that your dad has doubts. the first chink in his armor............ use it wisely