Posts by sonofapreacherman

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Do you think some sisters used the scriptures to...........................

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

..............................................................control their husbands and force them to put up with all sorts of things?.

most of us here would agree that alot of men in the wts use and abuse the scriptures to keep women under the thumb.

we have seen time and again how some married brothers like to have the wife and daughters 6 paces behind him.

Do you think some sisters used the scriptures to...........................

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

..............................................................control their husbands and force them to put up with all sorts of things?.

most of us here would agree that alot of men in the wts use and abuse the scriptures to keep women under the thumb.

we have seen time and again how some married brothers like to have the wife and daughters 6 paces behind him.

Do you think some sisters used the scriptures to...........................

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

..............................................................control their husbands and force them to put up with all sorts of things?.

most of us here would agree that alot of men in the wts use and abuse the scriptures to keep women under the thumb.

we have seen time and again how some married brothers like to have the wife and daughters 6 paces behind him.

Satanic music or not (Opeth) - boundaries of JW listening material

by Frantic in

as you may or may not know, some jw elders may resent some of their music thier children may listen to.. put simply, a 'death growl' is often viewed as a warped version of satan.

the band opeth use such death grow, however, are not satanic, with one reference to 'demon of the fall' (one of their songs).

they also combine death vocals with beautiful vocals, possibly the best in the business, alongside maynard james kennan (a perfect circle).

I remember when the evils of disco were the target of a couple of late 1970s magazines. A number of friends who had stocked up on vinyl following the Saturday Night Fever craze weeded out most of their collections after consulting with a youthful but spiritually strong MS in our congregation.

One of the mags implied that the 4/4 beat of most pop music was derived from the drums used in African demon worship. I pointed out, to a few friends, a number of songs in the old pink leather-bound song book that were set to the same 4/4 time. They only blanked me.

I have since had the misfortune to suffer a lot of cheesy disco music at Witness weddings.

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BBC Documentary: Apocalypse Now And Then

by sonofapreacherman in

did anyone else see this show last night?

it was on the more obscure bbc4 (available in the uk on satellite or cable).. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=yesterday&filename=20031029/20031029_2200_4544_28579_40.

the programme looked at recent media preoccupation with the end of the world (asteroid collisions, global warming, etc.).

sonofapreacherman

Those of us able to view it are blessed.

Alas, BBC Four say that they are "not normally" able to provide copies or transcripts of new productions. BBC4 is a newish digital broadcasting service with tighter budgets and smaller audiences than the other mainstream BBC channels. Unfortunately, I am not set up to record digital channels.

The JW part formed only the first few minutes of this hour-long documentary, but I think the more interesting thing would be to get the original, full-length, 1969 report that this part was taken from. I will make a request for video and transcripts of that old broadcast after I watch the repeat more closely on Saturday. I was taken by surprise on first viewing and missed a lot of the detail.

Nic' - I am in the same boat with my younger cousins (now elders), one of whom was completely unaware of the whole '75 thing. It is frustrating to try to tell them what really went on when they won't give any credence to my demon-influenced opinions anyway.

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BBC Documentary: Apocalypse Now And Then

by sonofapreacherman in

did anyone else see this show last night?

it was on the more obscure bbc4 (available in the uk on satellite or cable).. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=yesterday&filename=20031029/20031029_2200_4544_28579_40.

the programme looked at recent media preoccupation with the end of the world (asteroid collisions, global warming, etc.).

sonofapreacherman

Did anyone else see this show last night? It was on the more obscure BBC4 (available in the UK on satellite or cable).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=yesterday&filename=20031029/20031029_2200_4544_28579_40

The programme looked at recent media preoccupation with the end of the world (asteroid collisions, global warming, etc.).

It started with the increase in the JW preaching work in the late 1960s, with a view to 1975. The archival footage was taken from a 1969 World in Action (or Panorama?) feature. Interestingly, the reporter said that the Watchtower had invited them to produce the report so that they might help spread the word.

The 1969 report included an exuberant dub explaining the rationale behind 1914 and 1975. It also included a woman who had taken her children away from her JW husband for fear of their brainwashing.

This original report within the documentary clearly shows the fervour leading up to 1975 -- out of the "horses' mouths" of active members at the time -- and thus should be required for anyone who now doubts the impact this belief had on all Witnesses.

This programme, part of BBC4's Time Shift series, will be repeated on Saturday 1 Nov at 23:40.

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Ooooh and then the end will come

by johnathanseagull in

hey all.

afternoon thought here................in the time i was in the truff.........(i forget the scripture), there was the popular saying, it was usually my loud mouth brother (elder!!

) that used to be heard saying it and it was .............."yes everyone will have a witness and then the end will come"........everyone meaning the whole wide world...........question is this still a popular saying amonst the dubs, bearing in mind that it's a complete impossibility for everybody in the world to have a "witness" by a jw.. jgull.

sonofapreacherman

I recently remembered a teaching prevalent in the 1970s that communist countries would have to take responsibility for their peoples at armaggeddon. People in communist countries were doomed alright, but it was their governments which would be responsible for them (like a father is responsile for his household) I am afraid that I do not have any literature or CD roms for attribution's sake.

Apparently this doctrine has changed to the above mentioned "reading of hearts" sometime in the past 15 years or so.

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will the JW read this

by wonderer2003 in

the jw's have been back at my door a couple of times since my first post.. she gave me watchtowers and showed me books and literature from the jw cd, i said i would give her something to read when she came back.

she returned today with more medical stuff printed from her cd, so i gave her the stuff i got through the internet (thankfully alot of it was pages i found through this forum).

this is how the conversation went.. jw: afternoon.

sonofapreacherman

Two sisters have also just visited me this morning.

One of them started reading from Psalms as I opened the door, giving me no chance to say anything until she had finished and asked if I would like to live in such a paradise earth.

...spooky thing is I had just made my first post to this board this morning...

They have invited themselves back to explain the validity of 607BCE... erm, after having done enough research to do the question justice...

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What is the WT view of donating to charity?

by sonofapreacherman in

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i have been completely out of touch for over a decade, but i recall that the general sentiment was that charities are often corrupt or inefficient, and too often have some association with false religion..

sonofapreacherman

Thanks for confirming what I had thought...

but is the WT now involved in _any_ charitable work (outside of preaching/publications)?

I ask this because my mother is always keen to relate how the brothers have helped each other with housing, food and money following large disasters. She has replied to my saying that I am not surprised that JW’s would take good care of themselves, by claiming that the brothers also provide for the needy in disaster areas.

This somehow doesn’t square up with my (now somewhat vague) recollection of policy.

Is she just theocraticwarfaring to me?

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What is the WT view of donating to charity?

by sonofapreacherman in

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i have been completely out of touch for over a decade, but i recall that the general sentiment was that charities are often corrupt or inefficient, and too often have some association with false religion..

sonofapreacherman

I have been completely out of touch for over a decade, but I recall that the general sentiment was that charities are often corrupt or inefficient, and too often have some association with false religion.