Posts by shotgun

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Should have seen the signs...

by breal in

***the 4 door car***the inability to attend the annual family picnic on sunday ***the attitude so childish yet judgemental***

....funny thing is the words jw flickered in my mind on the second day i was there....and i never gave it much thought other than to wonder where the hell that came from...

the story: i started a new job recently.

Tell her that an elder had called to check up on you. You told him about the long conversations you were having at work with a sister...He asked if the sister knew you were DF'd and you said yes....He then asked if spiritual things were discussed and you said yes...Well he was shocked as the Society has made this clear that this is a definite no-no, only qualified elders are to do this and certainly not in incidental witnessing scenario's. He asked you to tell him if this continues as action may be required...You can use this as an idle threat and tell her no-names were given out.

If she persists maybe you should contact an elder or write the local congregation and inform them of her conduct, I don't think they would approve of her cutting in on the elders domain.

I was wondering, maybe someone else knows..... Can she possibly be counting her time when having discussions with you.....some JW's would break all the rules for a little more service time.

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Should have seen the signs...

by breal in

***the 4 door car***the inability to attend the annual family picnic on sunday ***the attitude so childish yet judgemental***

....funny thing is the words jw flickered in my mind on the second day i was there....and i never gave it much thought other than to wonder where the hell that came from...

the story: i started a new job recently.

shotgun

Hi breal

I've always been amazed by some people and the gall they have for asking intimate questions....

JW's were always asking me when are going to have children...finally I told them when my wife is ovulating we sometimes try three times a day..that shut them up.

Then when she was pregneant it was...were so close to the end, its a difficult time to have a child. Can't make them happy.

I had ones come to me and tell me they were praying that we had a particular sex (girl/boy) or that things went well....I told them I didn't think they're prayers could affect either but thanks and if they wanted to pray for me I needed a million bucks...they told me not to be silly, like their ideas were sane.

The next time this ((sister)) digs for info let her stick her shovel right in a pile of BS. I have alot of fun seeing how far I can go and just what some will believe remember how crazy some of thier beliefs are now that they would die to uphold.

I'm sending you a PM..Take care...

P.S...I do not agree about you leaving your job unless that's what you want..maybe you just need to have her leave you alone.

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C.T. Russell's grave vandalized

by RR in

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i attended a week long [six day] bible student convention in johnstown, pa, just outside of pittsburgh, there was a sister from romania who wanted to visit pastor russell's grave, so we drove the 2 hours up there, the last time i was there was in 1999.

well, apparently russell'sgrave was vandalized, on the front and back of the tombstone there are these photos of russell embedded into the granite, someone decided to keep a momento and ripped them off, so there's just a hole where the pictures were.

no respect for the dead, oh well.

shotgun

I've had varied thoughts about C.T Russell since reading most of his books....I did get the feeling he was genuine in his caring for those who wanted to put faith in Jesus and he more that any other JW president left many things not all up to personal decision.

Many of his ideas were messed up but to mess up his grave does nothing of any value other than some passing satisfaction given to probably a teenager. Who knows maybe its a person who has had his life ruined by JW doctrines.......

I was wondering where Rutherford is buried? Or was he so well preserved from alcohol he's propped in someone's closet.

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What's The Most Ridiculous Thing Taught or Believed By Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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what do you think??

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shotgun

Maybe its been covered but how about backward masking in almost all rock music.....KISS is Knights in Satans Service and AC/DC were satanists and were responsible for the night prowler or strangler..something like that. They burned half of the music in our cong one year even that evil Banana Rama...oohhhh scary stuff.

Don't listen to Linda Ronstad either because she snorted coke and had to have nose reconstruction.....The tops for me is Beth Sarim its a good thing the money was donated it may have been difficult to get a loan for that one....500 tons of coal maybe.

It all seems so blatently stupid....I feel so dense to have accepted some of this....although most of the real crazy crap is glossed over.

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Witness sayings

by Teela in

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as i was growing up in the troof.

there were sayings used over and over again to control my behaviour.

the biblical on bad associations spoil useful habits and another on just because everyone else does it doesnt mean you have to do it to, would you jump off a cliff just because other people do what were the sayings that bugged you?

shotgun

How about.....

Thats just what Satan wants

Have you prayed about it to Jehovah.

Get your head outa your ass...thats mine actually but I've never said it loud ...yet

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Any idea how many Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls there are ??? $$$

by run dont walk in

i was wondering if there is an accurate list of all the kingdom halls / assembly halls / printing plants and land in general owned by the watchtower.

you have to figure at least one kingdom hall in each decent sized city on this planet.

i know of at least 7 in my city.

shotgun

Guess no one knows RDW

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Any idea how many Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls there are ??? $$$

by run dont walk in

i was wondering if there is an accurate list of all the kingdom halls / assembly halls / printing plants and land in general owned by the watchtower.

you have to figure at least one kingdom hall in each decent sized city on this planet.

i know of at least 7 in my city.

shotgun

Good joke I got a chuckle too.

Did you ever hear what happens when you cross a Hells Angel with a JW......you get someone who knocks on your door and tell you to f...off..

I was wondering if anyone knew how many countries still charge for the literature?

Or how many countries are donation may be easier?

Is the society allowed as a non-taxible religious org to accept money which is contributed in other countries to cover cost of literature which is paid for not voluntary contribution?

In BC we have the Assembly hall which had a one million dollar reno a few years ago. Each time the hall is used the magic $ value mentioned as needed in donations is $8000 to cover expenses for a two day conv of 800 to 1200.

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Sodom and Gomorrah: A Request

by Euphemism in

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hear ye, hear ye, hear ye!

i'm using up one of my precious two daily topics to post this, so you'd darn well better read it!

i am hereby proposing a moratorium on all mentions of the flip-flopping on sodom and gomorrah.

shotgun

Most of the Society info on Sodom and Gom put them in the same boat as ones who perish at Armageddon which includes many relatives usually, so if they don't care about the past what about the future.

But you are correct no one really gives a rats ass about flip flops unless your at the beach and the sand is hot or something affects you personally. Like blood or transplants maybe even how disfellowshipped are treated.

I've been exposing changes to family and elders for months and its like they have ear plugs.....I am stuck as to what will help...sorry

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THIS IS HOW TO CRUMBLE THE wtbts!!

by Special K in

i was reading "run dont walks" topic on "when the governing body dies off then what happens?

" great post.. what we need to do, since there are alot of just "faded" members of the j.w.

organization here with us is this... next year, all you just faded ones, (the ones not disfellowshipped or disassociated) go to the memorial and "drink the wine and eat the unleavened bread"... .. brilliant isnt it.

shotgun

Thats an interesting idea Special K....although it sounds gross why don't you replace the wine with blood and after they drink they'll have to df themselves.

Honestly though.....I followed run don't walks thread and thought about supplying the IRS with alot of the info we see on this site with the whole donation scandal and Brooklyn receiving funds from over 200 countries where funds are solicited for the literature and not by voluntary contribution.

Then I thought as soon as someone starts to hassel the Org they will interpret this to millions as fulfillment of bible prophecy. I do know when I look around the halls that the population of attendees seems to be getting older and dying off with only the children for the most part being baptized. The 3rd world countries with huge increases inflate the annual increase...those poor people live in such poor conditions that a paradise hope is to appealing to pass up.

Maybe there is no magic pill to quiet the society.....maybe whats required is whats happening....as hard as it is for me to accept that. If Mormons, Christadephians, Muslims, Moonies and Holy Rollers are still thriving it may be the case that many will always beleive what they find comfort in. With JW's I think as the GB dies off more and more reforms will be made because non-annointed ones will not have as much pride to swallow and they won't fear reprisal as they admit to being mere men...not gods henchmen.

But I am open to lynching if you think it will help...they have certainly done that to enough good people who visit this site.

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An elder wants to study with me...please help!

by shotgun in

after my recent barrage of elder visits i've been told that to truly show i'm willing to work at restoring my faith a bs is needed.. i want to be able to pick a few recent publications (last 10 yrs) and sit down with him and examine all the quotes and references in the publications to show how the society has misquoted and misrepresented so much in their publications.

do you know which publications would be best..keeping in mind the reference material will also have to readily accessible to be of any use.

i don't think searching on the internet will be acceptable to him.. .

shotgun

Thanks for all your comments I like your idea Johnny as it was my research into why Jesus would have specifically chosen us as an organization in 1918/1919 that led me to read those gems like...The Finished Mystery and Millions now living. I was looking for a more recent publication though.

SWORDOFJAH I appreciate your comments about making up my own mind but if you are part of Gods true organization what the hell are you doing surfing a site not sanctioned by the WT society. If your brothers and sisters found out you would be looked upon as no better than the apostates that frequent this site as you called them.

An Apostate rejects his former beliefs or religion...under that dictionary description the WTBTS has been guilty of Apostasy whenever they reject a teaching which they formally taught as truth.

When I reached out to this forum many of the people you call apostates encouraged me to read the bible ..to study and meditate on it....but leave the reasoning of the WT out, see if what the bible says is really in agreement with the teaching from the GB and decide for myself. Sounds like something Peter might have said don't you think.