Posts by Frank75

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YORRW congregation - 'The Report'

by yaddayadda in

anyone read the report book on this website: .

http://www.livingwatersforum.com/bcommentary/index.php .

yadda

Frank75

There was someone years ago on H2O that pushed his/her "report". "JW's are God's modern day wayward nation....yadayadayada"

Not many responded to their posts as I recall.

It is a cry for help from people who can't admit they made a mistake and were fooled by a false prophet/christ. They cannot bring themselves to let go. To reconcile their belief that the dubs are Gods one true people, they have adopted the view that they are Gods one true "apostate" people. What gives? Like a venture stock that has been proved a fraud beyond a shadow of doubt, but there are die hards who just won't see it.

Their claims of insight and a fresh perspective on scripture are pathetic.

(Galatians 1:6) I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel.

Frank75

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Name just one belief, that automatically people will think you're a JW

by JH in

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i will live forever on paradise earth.

Frank75

This free literature can be yours for a voluntary donation.

Hmmm.

Frank75

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Elders Letter: Big Announcement/Why they want all the telephone #'s

by dannyboy in

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august 28, 2006 .

to all bodies of elders and traveling overseers

dear brothers, .

Frank75

I believe this is the new Orwellian document everyone is buzzzzing over. "Someone you can give the elders elsewhere in the country in event of disaster"

Give me a break!

Sorry my doc didn't load

Frank75

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

Frank75

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

Frank75

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

Frank75

I miss Frank too. Any way we can get him and his superior wit back on this forum?

The other Frank (Frank75)

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

Frank75

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

Frank75

Is this PMJ troll clueless, or what? Let's not feed it anymore.
Stevenyc, as you pointed out a few posts ago, the sum total of Watchtower teaching on the matter of Noah's preaching is that he indeed preached to the entire world. While the Society has been cagey enough not to directly claim that -- after all, the Bible itself does not directly claim it -- it has done everything but directly claim it, doing its usual talking out of both sides of its mouth at the same time. I believe this has been to stave off the inevitable question that would be raised if they directly stated that Noah did not preach to the entire world: How could a just God kill an entire world of people without warning them? Indeed, the thrust of Watchtower teaching has always been that God's appointing Noah as a preacher to warn the entire world of its coming destruction is proof of his supreme justice.
AlanF

What all of this talk back and forth about Noah fails to recognize in regards to Noah and his family, is that he was found righteous before he was told about the flood. The account says specifically that the Ark was only for him and his family. If he did preach anything at all it was "good bye suckers" because there is no provision for any other people. What would not be fair is if Noah who, needed no warning of impending doom, or advance notice, proved to be righteous on his own, was joined by persons who only came aboard the Ark because the alternative was destruction. How could that possibly be fair? Same with Dubs today. They all join the WT like my parents did when my Dad's sister came and pleaded him to come back to "the Truth" (him and my mom were raised in it). Her means to get them back into the witlesses was to scare them about 1975. It worked! My dad hung on until the 1980's. Of course it is not fair. Because neither of them really changed for the better. In fact my mother put him out after he stopped going to the meetings. She lives all alone now and none of her children want anything to do with her. Alan is 100 correct in why the witlesses do not come out and say that Noah covered the earth with preaching. He couldn't have done it even if he wanted to. That fact revealed it would show God is unfair. It would also put an unattainable burden on JW's who just could never reach everyone either....again showing God to be just as unjust. This would throw a stick of dynamite into their theology. However if like Jesus said that the final judgment would be just like ones of Noah and Lot, who were saved because they were righteous first without warning, then God is proved to be fair and just in that the playing field is arguably level. So then when a world is held to account by a judge who comes as a theif in the night and an hour not expected the things Jesus really said in Matt 24 and Luke 17/21 finally make sense. Frank75

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The end times and big announcements

by restrangled in

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for anyone of us familiar with this religion.....we were taught no one knows the day or the hour.

now should that be a 7000 year day, 1000 year day or 24 hour day, and any predictions concerning this or assuming knowledge of any sort would be exposing them selves as false prophets.. the wbts likely to whip up a frenzy of one sort or another due to clever rhetoric is typical, but all of us "out" know better.

it usually happens in the fall, ......just like this year.. no one here needs to hold their breath.

Frank75

They will likely pinpoint the time a little tighter, say......October 4/5

(Maybe only oldtimers will recognize that crap)

Frank75

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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible

by thirdwitness in

think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.

why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?

as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.

Frank75

TW:

Who do you think you're fooling anyway?

You won't tell us who you are and where you are out of fear of being found out by the very same evil men that you are defending.

Why don't you come clean and tell us why you felt the need to "run ahead of the organization" and post that apology for the UN fiasco as well as your unorthodox Theology/Views?

Are you DF'd? No one to talk to in your congregation? The bros get that scared look on their face when you start talking about "the Truth" so passionately?

Most of us have been there before, even AlanF. So why not quit your fighting and realize that you have been mislead by the greatest false prophet the world has ever known?

You have all the signs that you need everytime you go to that cold dark place called the kingdom hall to catch up on your sleep.

Matt 16:2-4 He replied,"When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,' 3 and in the morning, 'Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.

Frank75