After 20 friendless years in the cult I'm no longer the easygoing guy I used to be. I've become socially challenged from the emotional isolation, and for the most part I don't enjoy being around people any more.W
Finally Free:
I'm sure the guy you were is still in there somewhere. Older and wiser. Why don't we meet on the patio at Jakes in Unionville, have a few beers! Some suggestions for cheer are found on NVR's beer thread!
I'll be your friend! Wanna make it happen?
Frank75
Saturday morning cartoons.
Sorry, just being funny - it's not something I like to think about too much!
I lost out on Happy Days because it was on meeting nights. The issue was not watching it but being left out of, or feeling awkward in a peer group because of not knowing what everyone was going on about.
It could've been worse I suppose. There was a family where the Dad refused to get a TV.
We used to tease the crap out of them to compensate for what we got at school.
Sigh!
Frank75
this conversation happened at work today.
i already know that this guy was a jw but i wanted to know where his headspace was.
the conversation went something like this.
Do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?
No. Many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah's Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life. Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before God's time of judgment, and they will gain salvation. Moreover, Jesus said that we should not be judging one another. Humans look at the outward appearance; God looks at the heart. He sees accurately and judges mercifully. God has committed judgment into Jesus' hands, not ours.—Matthew 7:1-5; John 5:22, 27.
Scully: I know you know this already but just for the sake of the lurkers
In classic JW style that FAQ is answering a totally different question than the one posed. First what do dead people have to do with the question? Still those "resurrected" non witnesses according to WT teaching will be promptly put to death if they do not become JW's. Therefore the answer is YES.
Also, to the WT follower and leader alike, taking a stand for "truth and righteousness" means being a baptised JW! Again making the answer YES.
Likewise they do not believe God or Jesus does the judging either, rather it is the Watchtower appointee elders who do that! Being in his "right hand of control" and all!
LOL
Frank75
i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.
what do you like?
let's edumicate one another!
Beers!.....eh! LOL!
Gotta love the Great White North when it comes to some of the GOOD stuff!
Cheers BB
Frank75
i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.
what do you like?
let's edumicate one another!
BA- (I always stock Guinness, Smithwicks, Sierra Nevada or Smuttynose Pale Ale, and Miller Lite, others on occasion or while dining out.)
No Double Diamond? You know it "werks wounders, werks wounders!"
Frank75
i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.
what do you like?
let's edumicate one another!
Ay si! Vestidita de novia!
Thanks for the memories bro!
My Spanish is getting sooooo rusty, thanks for the correction. Bestida/Vestida. LOL
You know in the DR spelling is the least of their problems. IMHO For one they've got to deal with the Dubs and Mormons!
I recall arguing with Dominicans about proper usage and conjugation (they love to add "s" where there is none and cut them off where there is! Absolutely a waste of time debating though.
The V/B confusion was everywhere too! For sale signs proclaiming "Se Bende" etc!
It is 10 minutes to 11AM, hot and climbing again so I am going to cork another Mo' dzit and ride it out! Hope your not outside building something today bro, heat stroke is bad on the ticker!
Cheers
Frank75
http://www.dr-tourist.tv/pages/Presidente/Presidente_Domino.html
i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.
what do you like?
let's edumicate one another!
No way to test this thread for steroids so we go with the counter!LMAO @ Frank75 !
Hey Bro, I was thinking of the DR. You know they have one not bad Cerveza down there.
For those who have never had it, or they have had it at a resort where they serve it cold or worse, you do not know what your missing on an oppressively hot day!
In the DR which has terrible power problems, the backwoods and out of the way "Colmado's" (Bodega) could keep that stuff so cold it would almost freeze the contents when you popped the lid.
When you got a Presidente just right (I think at about -5 C) the whole bottle would frost up. The Dominicans called it "Bestida de Novia" (The wedding Gown)
There was nothing that would refresh you like that beer. Wasn't too much to write home about when it was warm, but oh boy was it good going down.
Did that take me back. " Oye, Cuno servador! Brindanos dos mas grandes pronto por favor!"
Frank75
i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.
what do you like?
let's edumicate one another!
Where can I get that Maudite? At a brewer's Retail store or the liquor store? Is it even available in Ontario?
I have some at my place. Want to have some in the hot tub? Your hubby can come, my wife will join us but prefers a Corona Lite. (Your Hubby will need to bring his own Blue or Molson's!)
This stuff is definitely for the Porter drinking, Guiness lovin', dark/red beer huggin type.
PM me and I will tell you where to get some.
Frank75
i believe the moment's right to discuss a very serious matter............................................................beer.
what do you like?
let's edumicate one another!
How do you explain the # of views being incorrect?
Perhaps you underestimate the popularity of beer?
for JH .
It is our former dub experience that makes us doubtful and suspicious of technology.
When my brother was DF'd they asked him the usual, if he was recording the meeting. He said "no" but that he would not mind at all if it was recorded.
The terse reply was, "You can't trust recordings because they can be altered". So quick witted bro de moi said, "Why would you want to alter a recording that YOU made of this meeting?"
They still DF'd him after they recovered from their stupidity but he said he has never seen these 4 guys speechless.
I know what you're all thinking, 4?
Yeah my bro got 4 on his tribunal, and I had 6. Those F'in Dubs don't even know how many are supposed to be in a tribunal! I think it has something to do with the 7 weeks of years.
Look, the ticker says what it says. No way to test this thread for steroids so we go with the counter!
Frank75
in the battle between apologists and apostates, who do you think more often comes around to the other point of view and why?.
imho, apologists (or trolls) are just potential apostates who need a little more time in the oven.
(in other words, they are not fully baked, only "half-baked.
betterdaze - Jesus never identifies the FDS. He makes no promises. He asked his followers a question because men speaking twisted things would indiscreetly identify themselves as his brothers. Today we know those men as the Watchtower Society.
Thanks for making a clearer and more concise summary of that text.
The only correction I would ask you to re-consider is what you say about the IF and what it refers to in the parable.
A master, rich ruler, or person of rank is consistently used in Jesus story telling with a long absence and then a return. In ancient times this was typical of nobles and kings who went off on campaigns that may have lasted years even a decade or two. Their return was when it happened and with little or no advanced notice. Jesus was still drawing on the same story line here. Even the prodigal son parable uses the long absence to examine the characters in the drama at the moment of return.
The IF does not connect in this verse with the return, but with the Slaves dispensing of his duties. If the slave fed his other domestics, took care of the household properly and did not let it go to his head then the master upon returning would naturally be impressed with the good report and bestowed a blessing.
Diligence in the absence of supervision is just not typically what happens. Look at what dubs have done in secret. They are not scared of being seen by God, Christ or the angels, they are afraid of being caught by the elders!
Even today when company owners like myself who went on a 3 year hiatus and left my company in the hands of a qualified employee with a minor stake (steward who was and still is a dub). Upon my return this man who had embezzled a considerable amount of money during that time and had alienated all of the other employees and salesman as well as putting that company in financial straights forcing me to put it in receivership. I did what was natural, I threw him out. The only thing that caused me to not involve the police was he was a "brother" and I thought a friend. Nor did I take him to the elders. Had I found the company in a good condition, I was ready to give him a large share in it, in essence "appointing him over all my belongings" as they related to this company.
In the receivership I ended up giving the customers and much of the remaining inventory and good will to an employee who conducted himself much more honorably.
Is it any wonder why many millionaires have left their fortunes to the Butler or even a family cat or dog instead of family or others who expected it?
Hope that casts another angle on your view of the text, while your assessment of the Watchtower arrogance is spot on!
Frank75
