what were some of the stupidest places either you or another jw have left tracts or magazines, hoping someone will find it and want a bible study?
hey Nate, that leaving them in rest stop toilet paper thing was funny, but no joke. My mom used to do that.
She would go in all the stalls and put the "new world" tract on top of the toilet paper dispensers. She'd just stick them in the little crack where the dispensers are bolted to the wall. She used to say that people in rest stops are on vacation, so they should like reading about how nice all the vacation area are going to be after god gets done with them.
Odrade
i ask this because recently physio and i decided to leave everything to our two boys - which meant cutting out our girls completely.. why?
well, we realised that if we both died (e.g.
car accident) all four children would be entitled to our estate.
Maybe the $$ or assets, if they are significant, could be left in trust on stipulation that they either get out, or that no money be given to WTS? I feel for you, that must be a hard decision. Or you could set up the $$ so that they have a small (very small) maintenance amount given to them each month/quarter in the event of your death. Yes, it may enable them to pioneer or whatever, but you can arrange it so they can never make one of those generous "inheritance" donations to WTS. Incidentally, my parents received an inheritance some time ago. They donated a substantial sum to WTS, just because it was "right." So IMO, you are right in assuming they would give a large portion away. It is just what is done by good Dubs in situations such as this.
Looking at it from the other perspective, my own parents (strict, or should I say fanatical JWs) have substantial assets. Originally, inheritance was 50/50 with me being executor. When my husband and I decided that we were not going back to JWism, I reminded him that it could mean significant financial "loss," when it eventually becomes known how far down this road we have come. His comment was that our convictions are worth more than any amount of inheritance, and we are not suffering anyways.
I suspect your dear daughters would feel the same about their convictions (unfortunately.) The revising of the division of assets will probably mean little to them, unless they are having doubts about the "truth." If they ARE having doubts about their beliefs, knowing they are giving up their inheritance for convictions they may not hold could make them think twice. Otherwise, it will have relatively little impact.
I am so sorry you are still battling this with your daughters. You are wise to consider the practical aspects of your choices though. (((((Dansk))))) ((((((Physio))))))
Odrade
the oct. km contains a four page insert for the theocratic ministry school, as it.
does every year.
the announcements instruct publishers, "the insert in this issue of our kingdom.
*gag* this one really gets me:
). The ORAL review ( not written anymore due to a secret passion for the word "oral") is now 15 questions you can doze off during.
Can't believe no more written review! haha.
Also, last month's KM had that letter from the Borg guys, only instead of signing "your brothers, WTBS" or whatever they used to say, the closing was "U.S. Branch." There was also supposedly some comment or announcement that this is the "new terminology." What is with that? Anyone know? More legal maneuvering?
who would be a property developer?
this is a bricklayer's accident report, which was printed in the newsletter of the australian equivalent of the workers' compensation board.. a true story.
dear sir,.
LMAO!!! this deserves a
i came across a post here a day or two ago where the poster mentioned they were the spouse of so and so.
so in the interest of board harmonics, (really i'm just a curious / nosy sob) ...... 1. who here is married / partnered with / related to other posters here ?
and what are your usernames / aliases?.
Awww! BT, that's the sweetest thing I've heard all day.
You lucky gal, Nina.
i'm just made 10,000 posts ... but what's in a number?.
one of my favourite lyrics is from a bob dylan song:.
oh i wish, i wish, i wish in vain.
happy birthday!!!
oh, wait a minute,
Happy 10,000!
i came across a post here a day or two ago where the poster mentioned they were the spouse of so and so.
so in the interest of board harmonics, (really i'm just a curious / nosy sob) ...... 1. who here is married / partnered with / related to other posters here ?
and what are your usernames / aliases?.
Odrade + Paterfamilias. But he never posts, just reads. He's kinda like that IRL too. I do ALL the talking.
We have a bunch of computers and a splitter/router thingy, so we can both surf at the same time. No fighting. LOL
i was reading the oct.15, 1908 zion's watch tower this evening and came across a number of articles discussing the "vow".
the "vow" was recommended by the tower and said to be "part and parcel of our original baptismal vow--- a re-statement of it".
here's what christians were told they should "vow"..........."i further vow that, with the exceptions below, i will at all times, in all places, conduct myself towards those of the opposite sex in private exactly as i would do with them in public---in the presence of a congregation of the lord's people.
We had a brother working on our house once. He brought another brother with him so he wouldn't be alone in the house with me. I asked him if he does that with his "worldly" jobs. I was sure he would say no he doesn't bother. Turns out he does!!!
Odrade
when a contract is drafted, it starts with a glossary of terms, so that both parties know exactly what they are agreeing to.
the wts, however, has created it's own terms with special meanings, which completely change the meaning of their direction.
a consequence of this, is that to the uniniaiated, their materials appear fairly innocuous.
This is a great topic. One I discussed with a couple of hard-core dubs from my hall. I have known of JWs who have exercised their conscience in attending University. They subsequently had privileges removed for their decision. (eg: no mic. handling, no parts on service meeting, not approved for aux. pio., etc. Talks given about pursuing the world's glory by means of higher ed.)
My argument is that if something is truly a "conscience matter" then there is no room for sanctions, no matter at what end of the issue you exercise your right of conscience. The extremely narrow stand should be dealt with in the same manner as the very broad view. The moment sanctions or discipline is imposed because a JW exercising the right of conscience in a way that is not in keeping with the general consensus, it is no longer a conscience matter. You cannot tell someone that it is their choice, there are no rules, then punish them because they pick the choice that doesn't agree with your own.
"Conscience Matter" is the biggest cop-out (legal loophole) ever invented by the old men in Brooklyn, and one of the subjects most likely to get me all hot and angry. (Sitting here right now with my eyes bugging out and face turning red. LOL!)
One good thing about it, those JWs who are punished for following their conscience are more likely to begin to question other stuff.
Odrade
first off: thanks to prudence for sending me this link:.
http://www.chihuly.com.
i have to admit, over the last few days/past week, there's nothing like a good link to unique and interesting artwork to help you, get 'through' a difficult moment.. mr. chihuly's glasswork, is incredible.. the more and more i would delve deeply into his website, i would become mesmerized by it.. the colours, the craftmanship, and 'chihuly' trademark, were simply 'brilliant'!.
I love Chihuly! Thanks for the link.
