Thank you Blondie, I appreciated your comments, I know it is a lot of work. Thanks Again
Imminent1975
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-31-2014 WT Study (FULL POTENTIAL)
by blondie inwt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm.
newly baptized brothers (not sisters) because the wts needs men to reach out.
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pros and cons of anti depessants?
by Crazyguy inobviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.
i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.
anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.
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I have had experience and have tried to manage depression since my pre-teens; I was a born-in JW with a very dedicated family. I was diagnosed with "Sub-acute depression" when I visited a Psychiatrist from London who settled in Africa. I was working overseas on a Branch for the WTBTS when things just got bad for me so I went to see some doctors. Within two months of the London Psychiatrist diagnosing me with depression and starting treatment I left the branch construction and went home. I've made a few mistakes in my life, however, to leave the branch construction was one of the best decisions I've ever made.
These are the known anti-depressants that I have taken in the past. I don't remember what I was given from the Psychiatrist from London practicing in Africa, however, it took me hours to wake up from it, literally zombie like. However, I had never slept so well.
Lexapro
Paxil
Cymbalta
Effexor
Wellibuton
Zoloft
Celebrex
Paxil made me very lethargic and slowed my thinking down considerably.
Effexor worked the best, however, the side affect for me was a very strong craving for alcohol. I mean bad. So I ended up the happiest drunk in the world.
Celebrex can help with arthritis.
Wellibuton had the least effect on sexual relations. Many of the others affected sexual relations performance which at the time was a real bummer.
I think I was last on Cymbalta when I had decided to stop; I had "brain zaps" for weeks, just Google "Cymbalta and Brain Zaps". It was like your brain was quivering from withdrawl.
As far as anti-anxiety medications, I've got mixed feelings about them. Xanex and Clonazepam are great for anxiety. Librium is also good. However, being benzos, it is addictive. Even after the stressful situations had passed I was still taking those little blue and pink pills and feeling anxiety. I found that my feelings of anxiety were acutally withdrawl symptoms from not taking the xanex. I found that xanex worked quickly and disappated quickly. So I was also prescribed klonopine or clonazepam which worked slower and lasted longer. So if you took both together with a gin and tonic, you were good to sit through a 5 day District Convention and be happy.
Getting off of the Benzos wasn't too bad, but I went through a withdrawl of about three days basically three days of no sleep.
I will conclude with non-depressing news; I stopped taking anti-depressants after two years of being out of JW's, and am doing well. They can help you get over a hump, and taking them is a decision for you personally, however, they are not the total answer. They put a bandaid on the siutaion. Oh as "friends"erroneously used to tell me, "only in the New System will we not suffer from depression."
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World Events bring about A Renewed Zeal!!!
by jk-ton inhi guys!
is anyone sensing an increasingly sanctimonious arrogance in j-dubs recently?
im asking this as i am finding that with the two major news stories in the last few weeks (ie.
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Imminent1975
JK-ton wrote, "Hi guys! Is anyone sensing an increasingly sanctimonious arrogance in J-dubs recently?"
I recently talked with my active Jw sister who knows that I've dropped off the map of Jw's. She talked about worldly people that she is in contact with are becoming concerned with the world events. She said to me, "Worldly people understand that something is taking place, and they don't have the truth, they are wondering how it will end, but we know how it will end." In other words not spoken, she indicated that I should do something or be destroyed at (Harm)eggedon.
I didn't say anything at all, I don't want to risk her associatioin, as she is the only immediate family that even calls me. But yes, every little ripple in the national relationships is taken as a sign of the time of the end.
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Volunteering.
by Jeannette insince i left the watchtower a couple of years ago, i started volunteering 3 hours a week at a wecare center.
it's like goodwill.
well, i've been there approximately 9 months, and yesterday i received a lovely thank you card from them.
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Xanthippe wrote, "All I got for pioneering for 10 years was a demand letter to give my discount literature back when I stopped! Charming."
You have got to be kidding, right? I understood that they were tight and greedy by that's extreme so.
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hello everyone
by purrpurr ini've been browsing the site for some time as things that the society teach just are not adding up much these days.
by exploring some of the threads on here i'm starting to see why.
a brief bio.
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Welcome, Purr, glad you are here.
Magnum wrote, " You seem to have a humble attitude. I believe that’s important."
I wholeheartedly agree. I think that a humble attitude is necessary to admit that our minds have been decieved and ensnared by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and their representatives.
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thinking of leaving
by justme67 ini am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.
i was doing ok until about a month ago.
we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.
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JustMe67, Thank you for sharing your story. Many people who do not wish to make a big deal out of their leaving choose to slowly fade; meaning to not attend meetings as regularly and become sporatic in service. This can take a few months to a few years depending on your preference. You become irregular at meetings, irregular in field service until you become inactive as a publisher and then just taper off to no activity in either meetings, service, or other forms of "service".
I congratulate you on your relative quickness in discovering the truth about the truth. Some of us here have spent 40, 50, and 60 years of our life on the hamster wheel running after the cheese and looking back see that we wasted most of our lives on nothing. Thank goodness your still young and single, (I presume). A fade should be very easy for you. Best Wishes.
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Commenting At The Meetings---Did You Enjoy It?
by minimus inwas that important for you?
most people, i believe, forced themselves to give an answer.
i knew many elders and servants over the years being counseled because they rarely answered.. funny thing....my mom who is 88 cries if she doesn't give a comment.
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I can't say I enjoyed it, I felt obligated since childhood indoctrination to comment to support the study. In the last two years that I went 2008-10, I found it extremely difficult to get called on during any study. I wasn't a loose cannon with my comments, but being in this cult since birth, I could comment without re-reading the paragraph.
I don't think the elders liked that at all. Perhaps, not sure if they were instructed to not call on individuals that didn't just regurgitate the written word. But anyway, I tested it out for months. I would raise my hand and not get called on, over and over again. This was the case even if the conductor was squirming because of lack of support. After I realized that I had been moth balled, I just stopped, and eventually stopped attending all together in 2010.
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Kingdom Halls Are the Perfect Safe Harbor For Pedophiles and Sex Offenders!
by BucketShopBill inwhy is the kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses perfectly suited for pedophiles and sex offenders to park their boat (bodies)?
i live by the coastal area of one of the windiest and treacherous waters ships sail through.
during the spanish expansion they lost their share because the captains did not realize how unforgiving the tempestuous winds and strong current was.
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The Cnn video report on the predators working at the theme parks. Good points Bill.
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Recent Visit with my Wife's Family
by Imminent1975 ini have been inactive for going on five years after an accerated fade.
my wife followed shortly after.
we recently went to visit her parents that know that we don't go to the meetings, and it bothers them but they don't know what to do, as they really can't do much.
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Thank you all for your feedback. Problemaddict, thanks for your thoughts, those are great suggestions. Please don't misunderstand that we left too much earlier, they have their meeting in the late afternoon now, and the wife indicated that she didn't want to stay around. It is a long drive and we both went into work Monday. She mentioned the prayer, but we were not disrespectful at her Dad's house, I even said Amen out loud for her Dad to hear. Her parents are old with their own disappointments, but still very active.
One family member I did have a heart to heart with over a year ago. If your interested in that it's here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/adult/257506/1/Notes-from-a-Recent-Discussion-with-a-relative-of-why-I-am-not-an-active-JW-anymore#.U8Xt8_ldXKc
He hasn't said anything negative to me since, and we still talk at least every other week on the phone. We work in the same industry and have alot to talk about.
I probably won't go into that much detail with anyone else in the family as I am not that close to them, and no, I am not interested in wrecking or criticizing their faith to them personally. It took me 46 years to open my eyes, I'm not expecting anything out of them like that, it could kill them from a broken heart. They are nice people, and right now I am happy that they havent' shunned us, they have shunned other family members that were DF'd.
I will maintain the status quo with them and politely just keep listening to their same stories over and over. Thanks to all of you again for your feedback!
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Recent Visit with my Wife's Family
by Imminent1975 ini have been inactive for going on five years after an accerated fade.
my wife followed shortly after.
we recently went to visit her parents that know that we don't go to the meetings, and it bothers them but they don't know what to do, as they really can't do much.
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I have been inactive for going on five years after an accerated fade. My wife followed shortly after. We recently went to visit her parents that know that we don't go to the meetings, and it bothers them but they don't know what to do, as they really can't do much. Her father worked up the courage to say to our daughter on their last visit, "We know that you are not going to the meetings", my daughters reply was, "So". "So" is such a conversation stopper. My thirteen year old came up with that, and I'm "so" proud of her.
Recently, we visited for a couple of days. At the First dinner my wife's dad said the prayer, and in the prayer he mentioned about looking forward to the convention. Then he said something like, "Thank you for 100 years of your sons rule on earth, we can see how mankind has benefitted" and then more blah, blah, blah.
I thought it strange, but said nothing to raise any disagreement. Later that night my wife said she wanted to go home Sunday morning. She said that her Dad's comment during the prayer was weird and that she didn't want to stay around for their Sunday meeting. My wife and I talked about how nothing has happened that WTBTS taught their followers to expect for the 130 year snipe hunt.
News on Warwick
Another relative had visited Warwick, and said the progress was at a fast pace. He indicated that Watchtower volunteer labor was doing all the concrete work on the lower levels, for example the basements and tunnels. But when it came to the steel structure, they were having outside worldly contractors come in to do that part.
I don't think I'll visit them anytime soon, being around them made me somewhat edgy, because I was waiting for them to tell me that I was going to die at harmaggedon.
I don't want to get into too much of a conversation with them about the "truth" about the truth. I'm happy that we have made it this far without them shunning us, however, I am prepared mentally to accept that they probably will some day.