Posts by Viperinus

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JW Father Kills Self and 12-year-old Son

by fjtoth in

the following story appears this morning in the south florida sun-sentinel at:.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cmurdsui26aug26,1,2987431.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines.

fort lauderdale police suspect father killed son, then self in home shooting.

Viperinus

Excuse the bar room psychology - but the JW belief is resurrection for all who die before Armageddon (except suicide).

Someone who is suffering from severe depression and trying to hold together his marriage, his family, probably his job, his self-esteem within the strict confines of the JW doctrine and the scrutiny of the KH, could this be a way out. The thought of not being good enough to get thru' Armageddon and loving your family so much that you are willing to forgo the chance yourself, by killing yourself and your loved ones. At least your family will see God's New Order and *short-cut* the terrible end of this system of things - even if you won't.

These people need help.

Si

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questions about 1975 and other dates

by Leander in

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my wife and i were discussing the date of 1975 earlier this week and she basically was of the opinion that the individuals who thought the end was coming in that year came up with the date based on their incorrect assesment of published information.

i replied that would it make sense for thousands of people across the continent to sell their homes and all of their valued possesions if they really had the slightest doubt that armageddon was not coming in 1975. she did'nt have an answer for that retort but still she insisted that somehow these people must have made a mistake in their judgement.

so for those of you who may have lived through the 1975 fiasco and those who have in-depth knowledge about the events that took place in that year maybe you can answer a few questions for me.. how widespread was the belief that 1975 was the year of armageddon?

Viperinus

Well my parents moved our family out to the wilds of North Wales in 1974, because that was where the need was greatest. Coincidence?

When I was a kid, I also seem to remember a WT picture of a train, labelled this 'system of things', heading towards a crash, labelled 1975.

V

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Ghosts and Hades: Another Watchtower Deception

by metatron in

what did the jews in jesus' day think about the soul and hades?.

if you read the watchtower, you might think that they dutifully followed jw teaching.

and had no idea about immortal souls or ghosts or punishment in hades.. .

Viperinus

Metatron

If one was removed form the association of these Christians for serious wrongdoing, such former members were now banned from this form of worship, “not even sharing a meal with such a one”. Also you would not greet a former unrepentant member with the “holy kiss”, “not even saying a greeting”.

Is this where the justification for DFing comes from?

V

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What's your sign!?

by MrsQ in

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i am curious to know... .

i'm a pisces.

Viperinus

Chinese - I'm a wooden snake - lucky me!

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Conversation with mom today re: apostate material

by Jourles in

so my mom calls me up today here at work and asks me how things are going.

she goes on about the usual stuff, latest gossip, and other things i don't really care to hear about.

she asked me how i am coming along in my "studies" with my assigned elder.

Viperinus

mizpah

But if you appeal to your mother's affection by being a good and caring son, she will have little defense against the greatest weapon you have: LOVE.

This is much easier said than done. My parents have been telling me for the last 30 years that Armageddon will be here tomorrow. They say it with such conviction. Their relationship with Jehovah is all that matters to them. To cultivate such a family relationship with one spiritually dead son would impede their own relationship with Jehovah, so why should they leave themselves vulnerable to a DA'd son?

It takes a even playing field to cultivate true family love, very difficult to do when your parents sanctimoniously patronise the very essence of who you are as a person. And how it can hurt! If my beliefs, views, lifestyle are up for criticism and ridicule, by the same token so is their Chistian faith. The difference is I have a lot more ammo than they do!

They have made their choice to squander their life on this impossible dream. I feel no obligation to cosset this choice.

V

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Jehovah to drop "h"

by czarofmischief in

flagging sales prompt deity image change.

jehovah, god of the universe and former head of the jehovah's witnesses, will be dropping the 'h' from the end of his name and replacing it with a silent "q".. this is widely seen by industry insiders as an attempt to attract a younger, hipper audience, more in tune with truly avant-garde spelling.. jehovaq's newest release, "jehovaq attackq" will feature the letter q in truly unexpected places, said jehovaq spokesperson, czarofmischief in an interview this afternoon at crazy mocha coffee company, bloomfield, pa.. "could this be a concialiatory effort to reach out to the gay community by embracing the queerest of all letters?

maybe," said czar, sliding gently off his chair and lying on the floor.. jehovaq seemed mildly concerned with the effects of alcohol on the pr community, especially czar.. "fuh q!

Viperinus

SixofNine

Thank you for your concern. I maybe a *Newbie* to the forum, but I am *Emperor Class* with regards to this destructive, tyrannical sect. Your loving God, Jehova(h/q) has screwed my family good and proper. That is no myth.

I just hope that all this doesn't backfire, I mean, everlasting life with this cruel, murderous deity. At least I have Armageddon to look forward to ! lol

V

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Meet Lucy

by chachasmum in

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wanted you to meet lucy, she is the latest addition in my doggy family.

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Viperinus

Has she dropped her cigar in the first photo? She does realise that it is a DF'ing offense?

V

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-27-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 7-27-03 wt study

comments by the reviewer will be in black and parentheses ().

see jwd topic on class distinctions (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/55841/1.ashx).

Viperinus

Matthew 15:21 onwards - Then Jesus went from that place and withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. And behold, a Canaanite woman of that district came and called out, "Have pity on me, Lord, Son of David! My daughter is tormented by a demon. " But he did not say a word in answer to her. His disciples came and asked him, "Send her away, for she keeps calling out after us. "He said in reply, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

If that ain't descrimination what is?

It ended happily ever after in the end though, must have caught JC in a good mood.

If it's good for the Grand Master it must be good for the R&F.

V

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jw homes for the elderly

by be wise in

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a witness told me recently that jws have homes that house the elderly.

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Viperinus

None of these elderly JWs would not have any income except a state pension, no savings 'cos the Org would had that in contributions long ago, so I bet it's all paid for by the Social Security. Nice little earner indeed. You can afford to be charitable to the loyal when the government is picking up the tab.

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Jehovah to drop "h"

by czarofmischief in

flagging sales prompt deity image change.

jehovah, god of the universe and former head of the jehovah's witnesses, will be dropping the 'h' from the end of his name and replacing it with a silent "q".. this is widely seen by industry insiders as an attempt to attract a younger, hipper audience, more in tune with truly avant-garde spelling.. jehovaq's newest release, "jehovaq attackq" will feature the letter q in truly unexpected places, said jehovaq spokesperson, czarofmischief in an interview this afternoon at crazy mocha coffee company, bloomfield, pa.. "could this be a concialiatory effort to reach out to the gay community by embracing the queerest of all letters?

maybe," said czar, sliding gently off his chair and lying on the floor.. jehovaq seemed mildly concerned with the effects of alcohol on the pr community, especially czar.. "fuh q!

Viperinus

Isn't a Jehovaq what forms at Assemblies when the Publishing House produce another book to flog?