Posts by StarTrekAngel

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Visit from anointed

by wezz in

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so tonight i get to be graced by the presence of one of the anointed.

last time he visited to help me i told him that i have a problem with the 1914 date.

now obviously every single aspect of this date is wrong, but i started off by asking how come they end it in 537 instead of 539, when the king of babylon obviously received his punishment in 539, as foretold by jeremiah.

StarTrekAngel

Nice material

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Jehovah's Witnesses Ban upheld by Supreme Court.-TASS reports. Are Russian JWs suffering as a result of Watchtower Governing Body Hate Rants?

by Balaamsass2 in

tass news:.

russias supreme court rules jehovah's witnesses from samara extremist organizationrussia.

november 13, 20:58 utc+3 .

StarTrekAngel

Totally agree with Simon. Ever since I learn about the Mexico/Malawi scandal, I have sustained that the org basically looks at every country/region as a potential contributor to their cause. If a country can not contribute enough members, money or a combination of both, then it better provide a good stream of martirs. They are needed to fulfill prophecy.

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Overlap what???

by dugout in

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just out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.

she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.

i thought oh s#^%!.

StarTrekAngel

Same here.. I am not sure what is better though... is it better that they remain ignorants? or is it better that they get shown the truth? In my case she is more like she is happy with the basic believes, those that are actually defendable (like mentioned here, those that were the center of the group back in the 70's or 80's). The rest is just icing. My wife can not even explain 1914 nor does she believe they got it right. At the end God will judge type of attitude. Lots of other things don't seem to come to mind. Sad part is, I wish I could say they wil be driven to do unthinkable things based on counlless doctrinal topics. Too many to challenge all. The truth is that they would still do the unthinkable if they can find just one belief that can be satifactorily explainable. In esence, no different than any other religion.

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can someone give me thier opinion on matt 11 11?

by sowhatnow in

i dont get it.. who is being spoken about?

first of all wouldnt moses be greater that john the baptist?

and yet im greater than john?

StarTrekAngel

The least of the heaven is being used as a perspective. Meaning that even if you were to take the least of the heavens, they would be greater than John. This is to show that no man would ever achieve the greatness of any spiritual creature. Even the most insignificant of them would be greater than the greatest human. If you happen to go to heaven, then I guess, based on the scriptures, you would become greater than John.

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"Take it up with God" -- the most arrogant statement I've heard -- Morris

by FatFreek 2005 in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/287214/2/us-zone-visit.

can you imagine if you were called into the back room, then giving that kind of answer to one of their kangaroo jc questionings?.

what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.

StarTrekAngel

I ask at least two other people about the things that Tony said and they both replaied they were just opinions, nothing more. I then reminded them of that opening remark (take it up with God) and both seems to have missed that part because the both replied "I did not hear that part"

Convenience?

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Zone Visit feedback, from ones still in??

by Crazyguy in

just wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.

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StarTrekAngel

Talked to my wife and mother in law about it. My wife know how I feel about this whole org. She herlself, without questioning told me that she could not wait for it to end. Even the oldest of the elders, he stepped on the platform to give the closing prayer as soon as AM3 walked off the mic. He did not expect hte closing remarks or he was really eager to go home. Today I talked to my wife about it and apparently she was not listening when AM3 clarified that, if we had a problem with his remarks, we had to take it up with God. Ask my mother in law and she also thought they were opinions, not law. I reminded them once again about his opening comments (God told him to say these things) and they both commented that this man might have been a bit harsh.

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I have two take aways from the zoned out meeting

by Sour Grapes in

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friends

out of three hours only two things really caught my attention.

i was surprised there was no special annoucements or more new light.

the first thing is that we know that the org is having a difficult time having young males reach out to be a ministerial servents to carry microphones and adjust the height of the podium.

StarTrekAngel

LMAO!

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

WOW! You guys have it all wrong! Specially you GC!!!! I have come to expect more of you!!!

Did you not see the faith testing announcement? There is a reason it was “testing”! It was hidden, somewhat subliminal! You should be ashamed of yourselves! Had you been paying attention, such as a spiritual person like me, you would have seen noticed it.

Had you not learned anything? Did we not study already that Jesus spent thousands if not millions of years learning from his father, Jehovah?

Did you not see what Bro Morris said? If your kid is not an MS by age 23, you are a bad parent!

Would your faith not be tested if you came to find out that your beloved God is a bad parent? I mean, c’mon, how worst can it possibly get? Jesus did not even get baptized by age 23, much less become an MS. What kind of father spends millions of years teaching his son with such poor outcome?

Its official guys! We got not God anymore other than the GB

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I have two take aways from the zoned out meeting

by Sour Grapes in

jw
friends

out of three hours only two things really caught my attention.

i was surprised there was no special annoucements or more new light.

the first thing is that we know that the org is having a difficult time having young males reach out to be a ministerial servents to carry microphones and adjust the height of the podium.

StarTrekAngel

WOW! You guys have it all wrong! Did you not see the faith testing announcement? There is a reason it was “testing”! It was hidden, somewhat subliminal! You should be ashamed of yourselves! Had you been paying attention, such as a spiritual person like me, you would have seen noticed it.

Had you not learned anything? Did we not study already that Jesus spent thousands if not millions of years learning from his father, Jehovah?

Did you not see what Bro Morris said? If your kid is not an MS by age 23, you are a bad parent!

Would your faith not be tested if you came to find out that your beloved God is a bad parent? I mean, c’mon, how worst can it possibly get? Jesus did not even get baptized by age 23, much less become an MS. What kind of father spends millions of years teaching his son with such poor outcome?

Its official guys! We got not God anymore other than the GB

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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StarTrekAngel

Time to open a business selling millstones... demand is posed to skyrocket.