Posts by StarTrekAngel

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Awesome movie: "THE GIVER". This is a MUST WATCH for witnesses and those breaking free from the WT!!!

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

you have to watch the movie "the giver"!

it is simply an awesome movie for every thinking witness, or those trying to break free from the org's hold on us.. i wont give away too much, but the concept of the film is mind blowing!

utopia vs reality etc... conformity vs individuality and humanity... etc.

StarTrekAngel

Too bad most JWs think they do have individuality and free will.

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Conti Appeal Preview - Oral Argument Jan 14

by Chaserious in

with hopefully a good deal of interest here in the conti appeal tomorrow (or later today, depending on where you are), i thought that on my ride home from work tonight i'd preview what to expect and what i think the key issues are for any who are interested.

i have had a busy few weeks and haven't had time to read everything, but i had some time to look at the appeal briefs during my work commute the past couple days.

it'll be interesting to see what develops out of the network news coverage of this case.

StarTrekAngel

Was ABC news ever granted permission to record or broadcast the arguments?

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Who is on Top of the Witness Money Chain?

by runForever in

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friends

who is all this money benefiting?

when you have hundreds of millions or billions of dollars there will be someone trying to tap into that.

is it the governing body?

StarTrekAngel

I beg to disagree. While not all the money could be benefiting one or a small group of persons, there is definitely someone ripping the benefits of belonging to the org. If you as a wealthy elder use it as a tax shelter, then you are ripping a benefit. The lawyers off course, and I am sure that all these investments in real state are not like buying candy. I am sure there are consulting firms and other companies involved in international transactions. Who is to say that the owners of some of these companies are not related to GB members?

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My Explanation of Why They Got it Wrong About Blood Using Only the NWT

by cofty in

10 " any israelite or any alien living among them who eats any bloodi will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people.

12 therefore i say to the israelites, "none of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood.

15 'anyone, whether native-born or alien, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then he will be clean.

StarTrekAngel

Agreed!

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Send the Watchtower Some Glittery Love

by jw07 in

what is the mail screening process at headquarters like?

wouldn't it be great if the watchtower received a few hundred packets of sticky, messy glitter that clings to everything over the course of a week?.

this website is amusing to say the least.. http://shipyourenemiesglitter.com/.

StarTrekAngel

LOL. What I wish is that we could do something like anonymous did to Hal Turner and send a load of pizza and have then pay for it.

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My Explanation of Why They Got it Wrong About Blood Using Only the NWT

by cofty in

10 " any israelite or any alien living among them who eats any bloodi will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people.

12 therefore i say to the israelites, "none of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood.

15 'anyone, whether native-born or alien, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then he will be clean.

StarTrekAngel

1 Cor 10:25

Eat whatever is sold in a meat market, making no inquiry because of your conscience, 26 for “to Jehovah* belong the earth and everything in it.” 27 If an unbeliever invites you and you want to go, eat whatever is set before you, making no inquiry on account of your conscience. 28 But if anyone says to you, “This is something offered in sacrifice,” do not eat because of the one who told you and because of conscience. 29 I do not mean your own conscience, but that of the other person. For why should my freedom be judged by another person’s conscience? 30 If I am partaking with thanks, why am I to be spoken of abusively over that for which I give thanks?

Mark 7:15

Nothing from outside a man that enters into him can defile him; but the things that come out of a man are the things that defile him.” 16 * ——17 Now when he had entered a house away from the crowd, his disciples began to question him about the illustration. 18 So he said to them: “Are you also without understanding like them? Are you not aware that nothing from outside that enters into a man can defile him, 19 since it enters, not into his heart, but into his stomach, and it passes out into the sewer?” Thus he declared all foods clean.

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Just returned from South America

by StarTrekAngel in

i just came back from visiting family in south america (will keep the name of the country out for now) and i was shocked by the amount of jws i saw on the street.

keep in mind that most countries in sa have been under military rule until the early 80s, with the general fear and mindset sticking around until the late 90s, even when the military was gone and democracy re established.

jw were not around when i lived there.

StarTrekAngel

No offense. I do agree do that some are third world countries. As much as media outlets would portrait them otherwise, the truth on the streets is different. It is my country of origin. Sorry I do not mention it by name, but it would be easy to pick me out of the crowd if I reveal it.

The main intention of my post was to put in perspective the localized growth in SA with their global trend, which points to a loss or a small gain at best.

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Just returned from South America

by StarTrekAngel in

i just came back from visiting family in south america (will keep the name of the country out for now) and i was shocked by the amount of jws i saw on the street.

keep in mind that most countries in sa have been under military rule until the early 80s, with the general fear and mindset sticking around until the late 90s, even when the military was gone and democracy re established.

jw were not around when i lived there.

StarTrekAngel

I just came back from visiting family in South America (will keep the name of the country out for now) and I was shocked by the amount of JWs I saw on the street. Keep in mind that most countries in SA have been under military rule until the early 80s, with the general fear and mindset sticking around until the late 90s, even when the military was gone and democracy re established. JW were not around when I lived there. The last time I visited in 2011, there were few congregations and there was none but a single JW in my town. There seems to have been tremendous growth since then because now they seem to be everywhere. Like everything that is new, it has a lot of synergy. There was not one day we went downtown where we did not see a JW on the street, no matter what time of the day. No matter which part of the country we went to, the same happened.

There has to be a whole lot of people leaving the org in order for such growth to be diminished worldwide.

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How would they explain this one?

by StarTrekAngel in

while there is plenty of pressure for young jws to refrain from every act of premarital sex, self pleasuring or by engaging with others, there isn't a whole lot of advice on the bible regarding this aspect.

i have just recently began to wonder about it so the only thing i can recall regarding this on the scriptures, is the famous words recorded in 1 cor 7:39 or any other paragraph that speaks against sexual immorality.

however, i came across deut 21:10. check it out.

StarTrekAngel

While there is plenty of pressure for young JWs to refrain from every act of premarital sex, self pleasuring or by engaging with others, there isn't a whole lot of advice on the bible regarding this aspect. I have just recently began to wonder about it so the only thing I can recall regarding this on the scriptures, is the famous words recorded in 1 Cor 7:39 or any other paragraph that speaks against sexual immorality. However, I came across Deut 21:10. Check it out. Is a bit confusing as far as when did the sex happen. Before or after marriage? In any case, the man is free to dismiss her if he wasn't pleased with her.

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deliberate deception by org

by Magnum in

there is ample evidence of the jw organizations being deceptive (for example, misusing quotes in publications such as the trinity brochure and the creation book), but a few years ago i noticed one glaring example of deception that is worth noting..

part #4 for the theocratic ministry school for the week of july 21, 2008 was how can false prophets be identified?

the material was the reasoning book beginning on page 132 (there was a similar service meeting part the week of 8-26-13)..

StarTrekAngel

One paragraph that is worth mentioning and that I have not seen mentioned here (and much less at JW meetings) is that of Deut chapter 13, which basically says that even if the word of the prophet comes true, you still need to be careful on following such prophet. There is no better writing to make the case for using your reasoning that this paragraph, because they were instructed to watch out, even when the prophet seemed to come from Jehovah.