by badboy 147 Replies latest jw friends
WEEKS EARLIER,JEWS AND PROSELYTES FROM AT LEAST 15 REGIONS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE HAD PACKED jERUSALEM TO CELEBRATE THE PASSOVER.
On the next page,it seems to show Arabia ,Media,Elam and Parthenia as part of the Roman empire.
I thought the Romans never conquered Arabia or Persia
AM I RIGHT?
sorry--Trajan did conquer Arabia, Armenia, and Parthia
HE(TRAJAN)DID IT IN CIRCA.120 NOT 33 AD
Roman timeline.
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/romans.html
Here's a Very Kewl Map of the territories at say, 14 AD.
http://www.roman-empire.net/maps/empire/extent/augustus.html
to say Trajan conquered Parthia is giving him more credit than he deserves, imho.
From Jgnat's Roman History link:
But by AD 113 affairs in the east again awakened his military ambitions.
The Euphrates had long been the vaguely acknowledged boundary between the Roman and Parthian dominions, but both empires claimed he northern kingdom of Armenia as a client state.
When the Parthian king Chosroes set up a king of his own on the throne of Armenia it was excuse enough for Trajan to begin a project of yet more military expansion.
In AD 113 he set his armies in motion and proceeded to the east to take command in person.
Chosroes tried to sue for piece, offering to set a new king in Armenia, a certain Parthamasiris, instead of the one Trajan initially took objection to, but it was not enough for the Roman emperor.
Trajan advanced meeting no resistance, till he reached the borders of Armenia. Parthamasiris came in person to plead for an end to hostilities, but only to be told that Armenia was no longer a kingdom but a Roman province, and that he should leave. The circumstances in which Parthamasiris was killed almost immediately after are obscure, but they certainly could not speak well for Trajan.
Armenia with Mesopotamia was secured, but Parthia was the emperor's real objective. Operations however were delayed till AD 116 owing to the need for creating some organization, and then due to the havoc wrought by a terrific earthquake at Antioch, in which Trajan himself barely escaped with his life. Then came a great campaign over the Tigris, the passage of which in the face of an active foe was no easy task, and the advance to Susa, the last triumphant achievement.For in the rear of the victorious armies revolt broke out in the annexed territories. Trajan was obliged to retreat with the enemy behind him, not in front of him, and his own health had at last broken down. He was indeed only checked, by no means defeated, but he saw at least that his dream of recreating the achievements of Alexander the Great could never be accomplished.His health deteriorating rapidly he started on his way back home to Rome, but died on the way in Cilicia (AD 117), having left his chief-of-staff, Publius Aelius Hadrianus, in charge of the inconclusive situation in the east.
----So, yes, Trajan cross the Tigris and won battles, however, he didn't technically subdue the Parthian kingdom. Rome never actually held or administered the land.
So in AD 33 ,PERSIA WAS NOT PART OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE!
What does 33 AD have to do with this? I'm confused.
Rebel 8, that would be about the time the Jews would have come to Pentecost and heard Peter's speech. I am guessing the JW's are suggesting that these Jewish people travelled far and wide from all corners of the Roman empire to get there.
Daniel 2:36-40 36 “This is the dream, and its interpretation we shall say before the king. 37 You, O king [of Babylon], the king of kings, you to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the might, and the strength and the dignity, 38 and into whose hand he has given, wherever the sons of mankind are dwelling, the beasts of the field and the winged creatures of the heavens, and whom he has made ruler over all of them, you yourself are the head of gold.39 “And after you there will rise another kingdom [Medo-Persia] inferior to you; and another kingdom [Greece], a third one, of copper, that will rule over the whole [inhabited] earth.
40 “And as for the fourth kingdom [Rome] , it will prove to be strong like iron. Forasmuch as iron is crushing and grinding everything else, so, like iron that shatters, it will crush and shatter even all these.
“This is what he said, ‘As for the fourth beast, there is a fourth kingdom [Rome] that will come to be on the earth, that will be different from all the [other] kingdoms; and it will devour all the [inhabited] earth and will trample it down and crush it. -- Daniel 7:23.
According to the texts above, there was a time during which Rome exercised universal rule. This would mean that Rome held jurisdiction over all peoples at that time.
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Schizm, let me be the first to ask the obvious...did Rome hold jurisdiction over China? The Maya, Zapotec, Teotihuacán civilizations? India? ect., etc.?
