WT,DEC 1 2005,PP22-23;IS THIS AN INACCURATE STATEMENT?

by badboy 147 Replies latest jw friends

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  badboy

  DO YOU THINK THE ROMANS CONQUERED THE CHINESE,SCHIZM?
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  Schizm

  
  I say that there was a time when Rome exercised universal rule. Are you hard of hearing?

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  badboy

  wHAT DO YOU MEAN BY UNIVERSAL RULE?
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  Schizm

  universal -- Of, relating to, extending to, or affecting the entire world or all within the world

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  badboy

  Did the ROMANS have universal rule?
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  M.J.

  As with a few others, Gumby, you too should be careful what you read into my tricky little question directed at M.J. Who knows, maybe he'll somehow find his way back into this thread, and if he does I plan on having him and you for supper.

  I'll resist the temptation to be sarcastic here and give you an honest counter-response to your question. I in fact did go through the exercise of looking up pre-Columbian American civilizations in Britannica during the period of the Roman empire, to make sure I had my facts straight. Here's the article:

  Meso-American civilization > Pre-Classic and Classic periods > Late Formative Period (300 BC – AD 100)

  Principal sites of Meso-American civilization. EB Inc.

  Probably the most significant features of the Late Formative are (1) the transformation of Olmec civilization in southeastern Meso-America into something approaching the earliest lowland Maya civilization and (2) the abrupt appearance, toward the end of the Late Formative, of fully urban culture at Teotihuacán in the Valley of Mexico. Most of the distinctive cultures that were to become the great Classic civilizations began to take shape at this time. There was no unifying force in the Late Formative comparable to the earlier Olmec; rather, regionalism and local cultural integration were the rule. There were, however, horizon traits, particularly in pottery, that were almost universal. Ceramics became elaborate in shape, often with composite or recurved outlines, hollow, bulbous feet, and flangelike protrusions encircling the vessel. The use of slips of a number of different colours as pottery decoration at times approached the elaborate polychromes of Classic times.

  The idea of constructing temple-pyramids was probably also a general trait. It was a Meso-American custom to bury a dead person beneath the floor of his own house, which was often then abandoned by the bereaved. As an elite class of noble lineages became distinguished from the mass of the people, the simple house platforms serving as sepulchres might have become transformed into more imposing structures, ending in the huge pyramids of the Late Formative and Classic, which surely had funerary functions. The deceased leader or the gods from which he claimed descent, or both, would then have been worshiped in a “house of god” on the temple summit. These pyramids became the focal point of Meso-American ceremonial life, as well as the centres of settlement.

  "pre-Columbian civilizations." Encyclopædia Britannica.
  
  2005. Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service. 1 Dec. 2005 <http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-69351>.
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  badboy

  SCHIZM,YOU ARE SAYING BASICALLY THAT NO `CORNER' OF THE WORLD WAS UNAFFECTED BY ROMAN RULE.

  EVEN CHINA WAS A ROMAN PROVINCE.
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  M.J.

  History > The Han dynasty

  The Han dynasty was founded by Liu Pang (best known by his temple name, Kao-tsu), who assumed the title of emperor in 202 BC . Eleven members of the Liu family followed in his place as effective emperors until AD 9. In that year the dynastic line was challenged by Wang Mang, who established his own regime under the title of Hsin. In AD 25 the authority of the Han dynasty was reaffirmed by Liu Hsiu (posthumous name Kuang-wu ti), who reigned as Han emperor until 57/58. Thirteen of his descendants maintained the dynastic succession until 220, when the rule of a single empire was replaced by that of three separate kingdoms. While the whole period from 206 or 202 BC to AD 220 is generally described as that of the Han dynasty, the terms Hsi (Western; also called Former) Han and Tung (Eastern; also called Later) Han are used to denote the two subperiods. During the first period, from 206 BC to AD 25, the capital city was situated at Ch'ang-an, in the west; in the second period, from AD 25 to 220, it lay farther east at Lo-yang.

  "China." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2005. Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service. 1 Dec. 2005 <http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-71645>.
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  badboy

  THANKS,M.J.

  I WONDER WHAT M.J. MIGHT STAND FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Schizm

  M.J.,

  In your own words, what do you make of all the so-called "authoritative" crap you've copied and which you choose to place your trust in?

  Don't be afraid to commit yourself now! Just spit it out.

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