Revelation 1.17 Jesus divinity? Or just "the first" raised from the dead"? (page 14)

Deputy Dog

Mondo

The answer is sorta both.

It looks like dual nature to you too, huh!

ellderwho

Well, well, well, It seems we have a sorta of dual natured Christ. Firstly Michael is a spirit being with no knoweldge of a mans struggle with sin.

Secondly What happened to Michael while he was waiting to be ressurected after Christs' death?

Deputy Dog

ew

Maybe Mondo really isn't a JW after all!

Deputy Dog

Mondo

Your question was based upon a false premise, so I corrected you, making it rather pointless to answer the question.

My question was based on the NWT.

Mondo1

And what does it being based upon the NWT have to do with anything? It really doesn't matter what Bible you're using, the issue still remains.

Deputy Dog

Mondo First you said

Your question was based upon a false premise, so I corrected you, making it rather pointless to answer the question.

You didn't correct me. It's not my premise

Then you said

And what does it being based upon the NWT have to do with anything?

If my question was based on this verse

1Th 4:16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.

I guess you're saying the NWT is or contains a false premise.

I have no problem with the answer.

The answer is sorta both.

That's honest! I just don't know why it took you so long to tell us the truth.

Your premise was that Jesus was Michael, and I said that is untrue, so yes I did correct you. Your interpretation of 1Thes. 4:17 is bad, so the fact that you are using the NWT or any other Bible isn't helping you. ....

and for my honest answer, I didn't hold back. It was the first time you'd asked me if he was flesh or spirit.

Deputy Dog

Mondo

Your premise was that Jesus was Michael, and I said that is untrue, so yes I did correct you.

Again it's not my premise, it's the WT's. I do not hold to any such premise.

Your interpretation of 1Thes. 4:17 is bad, so the fact that you are using the NWT or any other Bible isn't helping you. ....

It's not my interpretation, it's the WT's. Without this one verse, there's nothing in the Bible for the WT to even suggest, that Jesus is, or ever was Michael. So you are not correcting me, these are not my beliefs, but you're spanking the Watchtower big time!

ellderwho

DDog,

We all know as well as Mondo1, what the official position is of Mondo1 and the Watchtower regarding Jesus and Michael. Its interesting that the logistics of Michael and Christ are never addressed by Mondo1 or the Watchtower.

So Im not surprised that Mondo1 has nothing to say on this issue, which is fine. But to continue on as though its a small matter is really an act of ingnorance by both parties.

Mondo1

DD

I think you're missing the point. Your question was based upon that idea. Without that idea, the question was not valid. Get it?

Revelation 1.17 Jesus divinity? Or just "the first" raised from the dead"?

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