has anybody seen the 300 yet? (page 5)

free2beme

I thought it was pretty good, voilent scenes, but good. I heard it made Iran mad, so I thought I would send in my money to the cause.

RichieRich

If my enlightened detractors will note, I was not being dogmatic about the intent of the film. I personally perceived what appeared to be not one, but several implanted phrases eerily mirroring the 21st- century call to battle in Iraq and Afghanistan. Example: the pleadings of Leonidas' wife to send reinforcements to the front. Where have we heard that kind of emotional appeal lately? The following is not opinion: The war in Iraq was/is a travesty and future generations will consider the Bush administration guilty of war crimes.

No, you certainly weren't being dogmatic. I didn't mean to single you out. If you think about it, the reason people shell out so much money for the sake of entertainment is so they can forget about real life. So when you take something meant for entertainment, and try and bend it back to fit reality, it frustrates me. That, and there have been all these stupid protests going on on the university campus about this damn war. I swear, the political "enlightenment" comes with the stupid Bush shirts, not vice versa.

But yeah- BOOBIES!

Crumpet

It is hilarious that the SPARTANS are portrayed as all American Muscled Chick Balling Jocks.

Hamsterbait - I have to ask if you saw the same movie? The Spartans were all played by Scots or Englishman. Leonides was 21st century equiv of Sean Connery - he even had a slight lithp!

Sparta did not allow males to marry before 30. They lived in barracks from an early age, if they wanted to ball a chick they had to sneak out of the dorms.

yes this was exactly what the film portrayed. Do you not recall the scene at the beginning where Leonides notes that his captain's son is amongst the 300 and says to him: "he is not old enough to have known a woman yet?" because he is under 30. The only balling that went on, as you so sweetly put it, is between Leonides and his missus and they were well over 30!

Richie - YAY MAN THIGHS! mmmmm

Kaput

Leonides was 21st century equiv of Sean Connery - he even had a slight lithp!

Geez, Crumpet! I don't remember Sean Connery having a lithp!

Zico

Lisp is a silly word. Why give people with lisps a word to describe their speech impediment that they can't actually say? Somebody was playing a harsh joke with that one.

Abaddon

It's a pity it focused on the Spartans; hamsterbait is quite right about the Greek military in general. The most elite of the elite soldiers were gay couples, fighting alongside each other. Of course, 'gay' is a modern coinage and not neccesarily the same as pedastry, which was the common greek form of homosexuality. But the idea was that lovers would fight fiercely for each other and not dessert each other.

The Spartans, although quite relaxed about homosexuality in general, were the exception to this rule in the millitary. The very idea a Spartan soldier might show more courage or be less likely to desert because they were fighting with their lover was anathema to the Spartans, as a Spartan soldier should be brave no matter what and not dessert any he fought with.

The orignal unit that this idea was based on (a 300 strong group called the Scared Band) were all but wiped out in a battle which signalled the end of the City-State era in Greece and the rise of Macedonia. They basically stood their ground and fell there when the rest of their army ran. The actually found the graves which backed up an ancient description of how 254 were buried (the remaninder falling wounded and not dying on the battlefield).

I do think it rather amusing there's this debate about gays in the millitary... I mean, what do the antis really think? They'll be pink tanks and special marches ("At the left quick MINCE!")??

I can imagine the recruitment posters... a drippingly homoerotic pair of privates (LOL) with charmingly ripped and besmeered battle dress, with full on pecs and six-packs and under the banner headline "577th Special Gay Assault Squadron (motto; standing erect to defend our country) the strap line;

"You say gay like that's a bad thing. Piss us off and find out how right you can be."

or maybe;

"Hey, where have all the homophobes gone all of a sudden?"

or maybe;

"For real men only"

or maybe just;

"Friendly Fire"

I suppose "Lock and Lube" would be a bit too rude...

zagor

Haven't seen it yet. Lately watching mainly old movies. Just watched for the first time "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" really loved the story ... anyhow that completely off the topic lol

Crumpet

Abaddon -

elite soldiers were gay couples, fighting alongside each other. Of course, 'gay' is a modern coinage and not neccesarily the same as pedastry, which was the common greek form of homosexuality.

I agree - I thought the film portrayed the gay camraderie as overtly as it could whilst still appealing to a mass market. I did say I thought this film would have a huge gay following. The outfits alone were indicative of that. There was plenty of male bonding going on and not very much chick balling.

Crumpet

Lock and Lube

lol - very very funny! That's a film title in itself!

MsMcDucket

Haven't seen it yet. Lately watching mainly old movies. Just watched for the first time "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" really loved the story ... anyhow that completely off the topic lol

Zagor, it's not really off topic. Stella's "groove" turned out to be gay. He is fighting for alimony last I heard.

has anybody seen the 300 yet?

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