Freedom by the USA Government?

frankiespeakin

Lets see they slaughtered the indians that live on this land, wiped out the buffalo which starved many to death, put them on reservations, reduced many of them to poverty.

And now the US government has the biggest military in the world that cost its tax payers plenty and no government health care. ?? Kind of makes you wonder if freedom is just a 4 letter word with dom added on.

Not only that but they have spent trillions$$ on weapons of mass destruction, they have the biggest stock pile of nuclear weapons that can kill all life on earth several times over. And if I refuse to pay my taxes because I don't like the Government is wasting so much money on the military, I will get thrown in prision, and if they want to they can use the Patriot Act to torture me, refuse me a fair trial. Hmmmmm just what do they mean by that word freedom, and Nathan Hale is supposed to have said:"I regretted I have only one life to give for my country" Was he nuts, a fanatic, or brainwashed I would like to know, or was the whole phrase just a lie invented to get men into military service?

DazedAndConfused

Write your Congreesman with your concerns. One of the things I told my JW (devout I might add) mom is that this can work, if you work it. LOL Sorry using a bit of AA here. I stressed that she did not have to be a voter, just a citizen. I stated to her that even as a citizen, we all have a voice, but most don't use it. She agreed.

We as a whole do not think we can make a difference, but we can if we speak up. Think about it; if we say nothing our feelings are not taken into consideration. If we voice it, it may get noticed. Too many feel that one voice (writing our Congressman) will not work. What is misunderstood is that if enough of us voice our opinion instead of being "armchair quarterbacks" something can/will happen with the voice of the people.

BTW frankie, the buffalo are not wiped out. I can attest to that in my experience in FS. There is a buffalo ranch right here in Arizona. Just ONE example I am aware of. Like cockroaches, (not to equate this with an undesirable situation) if there is one there are 100 behind it. I believe there are many more ranches. Just a thought.

*edited to add to an incomplete thought.

frankiespeakin

DAC,

How about I just refuse to pay my taxes?

DazedAndConfused

Then you risk having your cute ass in jail. We can't avoid some laws but we can try to make a difference. If we silently gripe about a law and have nothing to do with trying to change it...we are just as wrong as the one's trying to make a difference. Just because they have political ties does not mean that they are stupid. Because of lack of input by the voters they can only go by their gut, no matter if it benefits the average person or not. How in the h*** are they to know if no one let's them know?

frankiespeakin

I don't vote because I don't like any enough to vote for them, and in reality you only have two choices, which is usually between two indoctrinated selfserving candidates who have gotten champainge money from the rich with strings attached.

DazedAndConfused

I agree, to an extent. OK, let's say that you come down to 2 candidates you can vote for. It happens. But if you are an informed "voter" you can try to vote in the on that most agrees with your own feelings. Admit it, no 2 people are going to agree 100%. That is a fact of life. You ever been married or been in a serious relationaship? Nuff said.

My point is, get well informed and first of all make a stand by voting. Second of all, don't sit back and say "my feelings don't count" if you don't make it known. Like I stated earlier, contact your Congressman. How in the heck are they to know the feelings of the general public, if the general public doesn't voice it?

Let me use an analagy. You are married. Your spouse has his/her thoughts. You sit back and say nothing and wonder why your are in divorce court. Could it be that you did not state fully your feelings? Is it because you sat back and let the spouse run all over you without you asserting your feelings? If you do not take responsibility in that relationship, you cannot expect a different outcome.

Who are you?

magoo

new light

We have the freedom to become materially rich, if we have the ambition and we pay Uncle Sam 1/3 of our earnings. We have freedom of religion, as long as we don't use any blacklisted plants for communion. Big deal. What has been sold to us as freedom is actually slavery to materialism, fossil fuels, and now electronic communications. One always has the option of dropping out of the rat race, at the expense of a permanent home and income. Build a home, and the gov will tax you, which makes one be part of the system by force, as the IRS does not accept tools or chickens as payment. There is no way around the money thing except by having nothing. Makes me wonder how many people out there are "homeless" by choice in defiance of the government.

Freedom by the USA Government?

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