Were getting closer! What you view as indoctrination isn't indoctrination to some people. What they veiw as your indoctrination isn't perhaps to you. Again every thing your stating on this thread in favor of not having religion and the arguments to support those beliefs can be used to support the beliefs of people that want religion.
I clearly realize what indoctrination is and there a thin line between teaching and going into indoctrination. I lived long enough to see many groups, nations claim not to be indoctrinated and do very evil things to other not of their group or nation.
There are many more religeous groups then Christianity the focus herein this tread seem to be on Christain not other groups. To state there is not a war against Christainity is not truthful. To state their is not a war between the two parties system of the United State is not truthful. Both are fighting for their beliefs in running the government it may not be define as physical violent but is a war.
The fact you label Christianty a danger = a threat - and a threat must be control or done away with. To state comments on this thread are same as all people supporting your veiws is not factual either. You may be moderating you statements, but there are many more people hatings religion. There is not a Christain group today that does not clearly understand their a war to do away with their religion. If laws are enact to take away a person religeous freedoms then indeed it is violence and oppression. If religion take away freedom by enacting their laws it is oppression and violence. That which you want away from and consider a danger. One can only hope when those laws are enacted people will obey the rule of law.
Again every group holds out a better more enlighten example to explain why their way are better. That is not new. Hilter did and we can go down the list of dictors in the last two thousand year and histroy will repeat itself. Our government does everyday. So again any group can make the facts support their belief system. That is the nature of man and it is their motives and agenda that are revealed in actions.
People holding your views are intolerant of religion they feel they know whats best and their willing to take steps up to violence and oppression to enforce their ways. There willing to do the exact same thing that was done to them by religion. And when they come to power that power will be used.
Yes, they will put a civil face on it through rationalized indoctrination of the masses any teachings opposed to that education as stated in this tread will be put down and oppressed because it is a threat and a danger again as stated in this tread. Indoctrination can be defined when it cannot understand or listen to another point of veiw in balance with it onw. Indoctrination is shown in the oppression of another group to uphold power or belief.
The facts are history repeats itself people use the same logic and tacts to come to power and they use the power to enforce their beliefs upon other groups. To look at the history of man and see all of the power changes and to deny the violence envoled for those changes to take place is a brainwashing of mass perplexity. Not to see the common thread that is the very nature of man and government is in itself the very danger you fear.
Religion became a part of that thread removing it from the tread does not change man nature it only replaces it with another group. That group is base on hate of another group. That group will use mass indoctrination to support its power freedom will come only if you and I obey those rules laws and teachings of that group.
And the history of mankind shows that people will not obey and they will still not be please and there will still be people wanting power and once having that power they will corrupt it and protect it and kill to keep it.
They will replace relgion with something that people can worship. Yes, worship that is the nature of man. No God, worship man, worship science, worship nature, worship the sun, worship government, worship leader, worship movie stars, etc,
It not going to be this nice little pie in the sky that now being talked about in this thread. So everybody is going to be enlighten and religion just going to go off into the sun set. T
Again this thread is about doing away with religion and the intolerance for it as stated herein. To believe religion is going to be done away with and a new paradise of freedom and peace for the human race will happen. Sound much like religion and much like indoctrination not base on fact. It sound that we are only changing gods both requires faith to believe in such unreality. When in reality what is happening one group is coming to power over another group the group coming power will enforce it beliefs system on the other group.
Now the other view being talked about on this tread is religion becomes so dangerous that it becomes a threat to the human race. Governments is then forced to deal with the world wide threat. People that already hold your views see it as a chance to do away with religion through government. They support oppresion of religion to protect themselves. That is the natrue of man.
That is a realisic view base on human experience and history and what happening through out the world right now and it can only get worst. It is almost word for word what the bilble states well happen written thousand of years ago.
If history right there will be freedom fighter coming out of the oppressed group and terriost killing in the name of their beliefs because of oppression of their ways and beliefs. A one world government herein advocated ( or one world thought) cannot happen without enforcement.
That enforcement will not produce a better world it will be an act of violence for protection. The distrust the oppression the massive suffering will not create a world of light and happiness. Because people are all a part of the same tread that connect eveything. When people judge and blame they are blaming and judging themselves.
It will be the last piece of mans history removed and then it will be soly man governing himself without religion. The religion man himself created and blames God for. What won't be missing is the human nature to blame others. Blaming is the blindness you fear it shuts done all thought and reasonable change - it promotes hate and distrust. If the bible is correct the start of the human race is one person blaming another then killing his brother over religeous views.
When religion is removed man will blame each other that is a fact of history.