ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

by Terry 92 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  Terry

  REPRISE:

  BEFORE God began creating.......he wasn't a CREATOR.

  BEFORE God began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing TO KNOW.

  BEFORE God began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to LOVE.

  BEFORE God began creating...He was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what? His mind? Filled with what, actually?

  God wasn't anyplace. God wasn't doing anything with anybody. Eternity of nothing was God's claim to fame.

  God could not be ALL-KNOWING (there was nothing to know).

  God could not be ALL-POWERFUL (nothing over which to exert power).

  God could not be JUST (no wrongs to right).

  God could not be WISE (no knowledge about things as yet created).

  Therefore:

  In what sense could GOD actually EXIST? To exist you must BE something rather than nothing. How was God distinguishable from nothing?

  God would have no attributes, identity or context.

  A God of Love with nothing to love? A God of wisdom with nothing to actually know?

  Consequently, only in the mind of MAN can God find context and omniscience, power, etc.

  MAN INVENTED GOD.
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  Narkissos

  Wow... see what I missed for being offline this summer.

  Augustine had a hard time (!) with that one too... http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/augustine/Pusey/book11 (see especially from 11.10.12 on).

  The classical orthodox answer, "upstream of time (to avoid the self-contradictory "before time" through sneaky spatialisation) God simply was in the eternity of the ontological Trinity," begs the question why he ever decided to do something else, bringing us about to ask the question...
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  Terry

  Random "chance" vs organized information?

  DNA is encoded information. Random chance and organized information are opposites- the only way to get information into the "system" would be from a " being" outside of our world

  Let's look at that a bit closer, shall we?

  A deck of cards.

  Shuffle, shuffle, shuffle.

  Deal.

  A hand.

  One hand always wins.

  Random chance (shuffle) is inherent to the process of energy. Energy is always in motion. No dealer is required.

  Organized information is pretty much a certainty! How? Why?

  Because nothing is nothing. But, something is always something.

  Matter/Energy/Space/Time are notnothing.

  The nature of what is, what exists, what interplay of recombinations (shuffle) produce inevitably deal a hand that wins.

  Can you look at it that way and see that PURPOSE is rather beside the point?