Fade Unsuccessful

by FadingELD 55 Replies latest jw experiences

  • FadingELD
    FadingELD

    WOW!!!!!

    My two sons lives with us now and will continue to live with me no matter what happens. I guess I should have said that the BOE did call me and I told them I was reading the C of C and would continue to read because I do have doubts. Since I was and Elder I knew this would be enough to prompt a commitee meeting because I am the type of person that when I have a problem will face it head on. I will go into that meeting tonight not to save my relationship with my wife, but to do what's right for my sons and I.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    It sounds like you know what will happen and what you need to do. I don't hear the usual
    confused lurkers who are just coming out. I am a fader without kids, but a faithful JW wife.
    I have had many long discussions about trust with her. I explained that she doesn't have to
    report (or spy for) to the elders about anything she thinks or discusses with me. Still, I have
    not allowed myself to go to this website in front of her, and my C of C book and others by
    former members are not in the open. She doesn't look for them (yet) and I don't think she
    wants to find them.

    While I am not where you are yet, if you speak your mind, the BOE will DF you. I have
    decided that I won't necessarily speak my mind, but just tell them that they don't have
    evidence of apostasy. I will fight a DF even if it is un-winnable. I will exhaust the appeal
    process, claiming there simply isn't evidence. But I will remain true to myself by not
    fully providing them any information to hang me with.

    You are welcome to JWD. We would love to hear how it plays out.

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    welcome FadingELD

    as an elder, you will be held to a higher standard of accountability. depending on how long you are/were an elder, you have been pointed warned about apostate literature, likely specifically Franz' book.... I know if I were ever caught here, I would be DF instantly in absentia because as an elder I sat on a JC of someone DF for apostasy (ironically, i found out they posted here at one time)

    do what you have to for your family....your wife has to decide for herself which is more important...be upfront with her....

    i wish you well...keep us updated

    Snakes ()

  • oompa
    oompa

    FadingEld: I dont know if you really should do what you last posted you were going to do. If deep down you really dont love your wife or think you will be better off without her...go ahead. My wife very recently turned me in the the elders for being here and I have a df's son. I met with two and just kind of blew it off without even even telling a lie. You said you have not even read the fricking book yet!!! Have they? How could they even make a judgement without knowing the material by the way. So you have doubts, so did peter and thomas. I dont think they can even df you for doubts, or because you are CURIOUS about something and you could easily say you really dont know what to believe (i know I sure dont). I think you may regret taking a stand this early unless you are really sure you can split your family, possibly your assets, split from your wife and all friends.....

    take your time and make those Eldbastards work.....oompa

  • llbh
    llbh

    Welcome fadingeld. Keep us all posted as to what happened. Hopefully your children will understand. What prompted your wife to behave the way she did hopefully you understand. She may even come round seeing how much you love your children

    best wishes llbh

  • google
    google

    Hi, been doing the fade for about a year. Served as an elder for 25 years. Totally agree with DocBob. You cannot be disfellowshipped for reading COC and for having doubts. The only thing to be aware of is if you have expressed those doubts to others. This can be misused by the elders as spreading apostate information. As long as you don't volunteer incriminating information you should be OK. They will probably ask you whom you have been speaking to, and they will interview those people.

    Also, I would not let my wife get away with violating the confidence of our marriage. Explain to her that this will inhibit free exchange of thoughts and communication between you.

    Good luck.

  • JK666
    JK666

    ((((((((((((fadingELD)))))))))))))))))

    Be strong and be true to yourself. We are with you!

    And welcome to JWD!

    JK

  • llbh
    llbh

    Hi google welcome

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    Very painful story. Keep up the faith. Eventually it will work out. I only hope that you do not lose too much time.

    This makes me so angry. I hate to hear these stories where the spouse (usually the wife) supports the organization in favor of the other spouse. What the hell happened to commitment? My marriage ended because of the wife choosing the wt over me and I remain very bitter.

  • Quandry
    Quandry

    Welcome fading eld

    I can sympathize completely with you. Three years ago my sixteen year old daughter was brought into a judicial meeting with five elders-no inquiry first-and they proceeded to spiritually beat her with the utmost cruelty and humiliation.

    She didn't do anything horrible-just stupid teen stuff, but they acted as though she was disgusting to them and then accused her of fornication for over two hours, making her read every condemning scripture in the Bible and continually asking "Is there anything more you want to tell us?" After midnight, when she just would not admit to fornication (there was no accusation, no witnesses, and no admission) they told her they were not going to believe her. Much more demeaning went on, then they df'd her, the chairman adding "And if you are still df'd at Armageddon, you can take some comfort in knowing that Jehovah can read hearts."

    Her dad (an elder at the time with twenty years experience) was with her, and he had tried to tell them that he believed her. They ignored him completely. Now, of course, he is guilt-ridden because he did not lunge accross the table and beat the $^#T out of them for the way they treated her, and I am because I was not there to try and stop the abuse.

    My husband and I were not about to abandon our child. Especially not after the ungodly way these self-righteous B@$&(%#S treated her. Then of course they removed my husband using lies (but that is another story). Fortunately, my husband and I are very much together on how we feel about what they did.

    Why take the young and vulnerable and throw them away? And then call it love?

    As to your wife:

    Also, I would not let my wife get away with violating the confidence of our marriage. Explain to her that this will inhibit free exchange of thoughts and communication between you.

    I agree with this totally.

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