by JamesWind 79 Replies latest jw friends
besty:
You said that you had difficulty developing social skills which has had an ongoing effect throughout your life, yet you also said that you had maintained contact with hundreds of JW's over an extended period. I'm unclear about which of these statements is the most accurate - perhaps you can expand on that for me?
See my post above.
TROLL ALERT !!!That's why I had stopped posting on here, I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but his story is not adding up at all.
People like you make me sick.
You don't understand the hate. This is because you lack basic human understanding and compassion.
People on this board aren't getting together to hate, they're helping each other. What are you doing? You're not helping people, you're just having a go.
You say people whining makes you sick, but then you back-pedal and say oh unless someone has committed suicide, it's all right then. Who the hell are you to judge what it's ok to 'whine' about. You have a nice life, bully for you, you have no idea what other people have gone through.
The world is full of good and bad people. The Witness organization is no different. There are literally millions of genuinely good and decent people that are Jehovah's Witnesses. And from my extensive experience with at least 12 different congregations and thousands of people I can assure you that the mix is probably 99.99 to .01 in favor of those good and decent people. And yet, the people on this board would have you believe the number is skewed in the opposite direction. I call bullsheit.
Troll or not i agree with that 100%.
The world is full of good and bad people. The Witness organization is no different. There are literally millions of genuinely good and decent people that are Jehovah's Witnesses. And from my extensive experience with at least 12 different congregations and thousands of people I can assure you that the mix is probably 99.99 to .01 in favor of those good and decent people. And yet, the people on this board would have you believe the number is skewed in the opposite direction. I call bullsheit.
Well, even though I think your percentages are way off, so what? I mean so what if all Jehovah's Witnesses are fine, upstanding people. What does that really mean? Does that make them special in some way? Does that make them better than other people? Are they going to receive more blessings from God just because they are Jehovah's Witnesses? The questions is would they still be fine and decent people if they were not Jehovah's Witnesses?
There are literally millions of good and decent people that are NOT Jehovah's Witnesses. One does not have to associated with a religious organization to be good and decent.
There are also many Jehovah's Witnesses who are not fine and decent. Who are scammers, pedophiles, liars, adulturers, and just about everything else you can think of and, believe me, it is getting worse.
It seems like you were never an elder and so you were privy to only surface dealings with the people in your congregations. I am presently an elders and I can tell you that most witnesses have skeletons in their closets. They may smile and greet you and have you over for dinner, but everything is not always rosy in Jehovahland.
James, the bible says to love what is good and hate what is evil, there are very few things more evil in this world than child molesting, but even more so for a religion that covers it up and then lies about it.
This religion has destroyed millions of lives and families over the last 100 years, the evidence of their lies is so great that it almost piles up to heaven.
I have been in numerous churches since leaving the JW's and none, I repeat none teach their members to lie or to deceptively recruit. Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to lie, it is called "Theocratic Warfare Strategy"
I know this first hand as a JW told me a bare faced lie about the previous doctrines they used to teach. Not only him,but the the other Elder that was with him. Not only that but they also lied to my friend Jeanie. They have been coming to her door for almost 2 years. They told her a flat out lie.
I will be a thorn in the Watchtowers side, so long as I draw breath.
The chldren deserve justice, the families deserve justice, and I deserve justice.
James - I did not have time to read all the comments, as I have now moved on and have a Thanxgiving Day to celebrate now.
Your comments indicate that YOU have serious issues in your personal and professional life due to the sorry influence of this organization. And you left before the birth-fluid dried from your ears. How is it that you don't understand why some who have spent twice, thrice, or four times your 18 years do not have serious issues to deal with and work thru?
I have seen very little hatred promoted against people who are Jehovah's Witnesses here [and I have been a member of this forum for 3 years]. What I see is a hatred of THE ORGANIZATION that promotes a lifestyle that forever damages lives.
I have met people here who did as you - walked away - only to never see their children again, or their grandchildren! I have met people here who watched a JW mate insist that a child did not have blood in an emergency - and then watched the child die. I have met people here who sacrificed jobs, careers, education, and yes a lifestyle like the one you opted to take, not because of the people, but because of the ORGANIZATION that they believed was God's spokesman.
Your failure to take the religion seriously at 18 - and just going off and having 'sex..lot's of sex' as you state - shows you never made the commitment these people did. That is a serious bit of un-hitching when one spends his entire life believing lies that took away life options.
I personally wanted to have sex, lots of sex, at 18 also. I chose to stick around. I stuck around till I was 48 and found out the religion was a LIE. I had invested my whole life. You invested 18 years - about 0 of them as an adult. There's a hell of a difference in the investment. And a hell of a difference in the mental and emotional effects that would have. Ya' think?
Not being a smart ass. But until you have walked in the shoes of another, the best option is to try and empathically understand what has been lost. Sometimes those losses cause anger. Seem simple to understand to me. But then, I lived my life in a religion of vanity, while you were 'having lots of sex.'
Still - I am glad you got out without the baggage we still carry. What you state here is tantamount to stating that you cannot understand the bitterness of a man who lost his legs due to the foolish practices of his employer. While some may carry less bitterness than others, when others opted to change jobs and avoided the loss. All who experience that would have differing amounts of emotion and real effects to deal with.
Jeff
James you obviously have no true understanding or idea of the WTS doctrines. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted what you have. You left at 18 years of age (supposedly), probably snored thru half of the meetings you did attend, yet, believe you have the right to call BS on the many true stories of posters on this forum. I was sexually molested by a jw my ex-husband who lived hundreds of miles away while we grew up in the "truth" was also sexually molested by an elder, his best friend, from another congregation was, his wife was by her own father elder. For you to suggest that it is a rare occurance in the organization is to CHOOSE to be uninformed and turn a blind eye. That's your choice. As for whining, therapists worldwide would agree that talking about and discussing the negative experiences in your past especially with people who can relate, is a positive thing.
As for your vomiting....why is it that you allow something you read on a forum to make you physically ill? You are in control of your reactions, no one else. You can't blame anyone on here for how you "react" to a post. And the "hundreds" of witnesses you keep in contact with,,,yup, I call Bullshit! No one that I know of here contends that they "hate" all witnesses, rather the doctrines of the organization they follow. So, you "believe" its the "truth" yet you just don't want to do the work huh? Is that why you are here, to ease your guilty conscience by telling us how "badly behaved" we are?
And FYI, before you talk about subjects you know nothing of, perhaps a little research on your part is in order. Accepting a blood transfusion is automatic DAing. It is one of the most fundementally enforced doctrines of the witnesses. If it wasn't...why are there blood committees to be called to hospital bedsides of witnesses? Oh wait, my bad, you personally know many who have accepted a blood transfusion with no repreccusions right? Now, who's the bullshitter here?
P.S. Welcome the board, pack some depends, and bring a large bucket, we dont' want to cause you to have an accident whilst reading our sickening posts.
That post, Sweetstuff, is why I love you, sis.
Jeff
That post, Sweetstuff, is why I love you, sis.
Jeff
Aww, love you too bro!!
