I dont understand the hate...

by JamesWind 79 Replies latest jw friends

  • kerj2leev
    kerj2leev

    TROLL

    Brinjen is right.

    He is probably out in service right now, that is why he hasn't been responding lately!

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    it's not hate, it's called "group therapy"...............very healing, for me at least.

  • willyloman
    willyloman

    James, It appears you answered your own question:

    This has been a serious problem for me and I have paid heavily for it in my professional and personal life.

    Most people in the same position would hate that.

  • R.Crusoe
    R.Crusoe

    The hatred will sometimes be a personal statement of an individual learning how to reject outwardly that which they have felt inwardly for so long and now are trying to leave behind in their lives. Because the organization so ties up every vein of your thought processes it is usual to internalize any thoughts which disagree with their doctrine or their status as Gods only channel to humans. And people on the outside are oblivious to the mass of explanatory doctrine leaving individuals isolated and often unable to form close bonds with regular people for fear of rejection and labeling as religious crackpot. So the very make up of ones mind, like a tumor, which is now seeking removal has no way of being excised. So maybe this is one of those places some are able to do so. It is not perfect and maybe seems 'sick' at times - especially if it seeks to hate, avenge or harm others which hopefully is not its intention since that's the reason some are here to start with. But my observation suggests maybe that's what it is.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I always say, therapy isn't pretty.

    S

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    I don't hate Jehovah's Witnesses. They're too insignificant to warrant such a strong emotion. I just think they're pathetic by choice.

    W

  • seawolf
    seawolf

    TROLL

    Brinjen is right.

    He is probably out in service right now, that is why he hasn't been responding lately!

    ...and disturbing people eating their turkey dinners and they're going to be pissed. I went out one time on Thanksgiving and that was the last time. LOL

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    Dear James...

    WELCOME to the forum.

    Until you have something tragic directly happen to you because of the organization, you may never understand the hate.

    My Gandfather died because of the ever changing blood policy!! Do you know what I was told? Well he only had what 10, maybe 15 years left??!! Do you know how painful that was to hear, and how angry that made me??

    My anger also stems from the fact that my family was labeled "Apostate" who is considered worse then a murderer by JWs all because we had doubts that got leaked out to the congregation! Questions the elders never came back to answer.

    My anger also is from having the Circuit Overseer visit my JW brother and Grandmother and perpetuate lies that we not only were apostate, but had started our own religion, were printing our own lierature, and had started a web site called "Jehovahs CHRISTIAN Witnesses". NEVER did the Circuit Overseer call, or come over to ask us if these rumors he had heard and was spreading was even true. But my JW family sure believed him!!

    My anger also comes from the elders who promised to get back to us with answers regarding 607, yet never called or returned until FINALLY a relative 2 states away called our elder body demanding to know why they still after 6 months had not gotten back to us....the elder bodys reply?? "We have called and called..they refuse to call us back!" Yet the very next day after my relative called miraculously the PO tried to call and low and behold..he got through! Yet my relative who called our elder body believed the elders, and told us we were playing "games"! Yet we NEVER EVER had been called by the elders!!!!!!!!!! It was all LIES!!! ONCE AGAIN!

    To top it all off last New Years our home was egged and our twinkling yard Frosty was ruined! Yes during the night my JW neighbor had a JW New Years party, and they decided it would be most FUN to trash our home! Well..they got caught by a another neigbor, and were forced to come forward and admit charges were pressed and they had fines and public service to pay. They sat there in the court room staring at us with smerks on their face ..Oh so COCKY! ..Even though the elders knew about this not one elder called us to apologise for what they had done, and we arre not Df'D or Da'D.

    Then you have all the other things...the out and out LIES the organization is deliberately teaching, and the most heartbreaking, the horrific crime of child abuse that is being left unreported and leaving thousands of children vulnerable to pediphiles who are basically in a "safe haven" within the organization! I have personal friends who's daughter was molested by their best friend who was a elder at the time. For years he molested her! Finally when she turned 18 it came out and he served time in prison! Yes I am ANGRY!

    So James..I hope you can see from my experiences that I have very good reason to be FURIOUS with the organization! You are very fortunate if you can say you have no anger towards them. Unfortunately that is NOT the case with most here! Many have stories simular and worse then ours.

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

  • 5go
    5go

    I agree he sounds like a reasonable troll tough. He may have a chance at becoming a decent member of the community after a good smack down.

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    James: I think you are making very good points. I've done some whining too. I wish I could erase some of those posts because I realize that it is not my typical mood. It's really a game they play on this forum. "Ain't it terrible...that JW's.... They hardly ever say "terrible" compared to what? Many here forget the murderous history of ALL religion. And they especially forget that JW's make up a Nation of all sorts of people who have beaten their swords into ploughshares. Jesus was unambiguous about the need for his followers to be separate from the world. The JW organization didn't invent that Idea - Jesus did.

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