I dont understand the hate... (page 8)

Anti-Christ

I find it funny when someone whines about whining.

mouthy

Then I assume you are against ALL organized religion.

Personally I can only speak for myself !Yes I am against organized religion I am all for a relationship with Jesus Christ .& let me tell you I was offended by you saying we "hate" Jehovahs Witnesses" How dare you
I was a JW for 25 years I made 10 people JWS NO ! NOT GOD> ME!!!!!!
They chucked me out because I confessed I didnt believe Jesus came invisably in 1914.
I was DEVASTED to say the lest. !!!!! I TRULY believed it all was truth. They took away my daughter & grand daughter .Whom I would have died for if I could.
SINCE I received that relationship with Jesus MY WHOLE LIFE is devoted to those who the "Mother" organization kicks out. I dont care what their "SIN" I just KNOW the reason we are created is to LOVE even out enemies .My time, money, health, is spent on letting those who have been given the left foot of fellowship ( from the Organization) Know that they are NOT alone.
Good for you if your such a loving person I find you a very judgemental person... So cuddle your loving wife ....Hug your loving kids & think of some of us who cant do that because a few old men in Brooklyn tell people like you to "back us up in what we decide " Yes I consider myself a Christian ( not a good one I know) & I find with you I have "rightous indignation,"

gymbob

James,

I hope you're still reading around this place, it has been very helpful to a lot of folks.....

I personally don't post here much anymore, after spending most of my life as a JW I left the cult 5 years ago with the help of some of the people on this forum and have moved on.

When I did decided not to be a part of the witness lifestyle anymore (fade away), my wife of 23 years filed for divorce, my parents refused to talk to me, and every lifelong friend I had disowned me. To this day, my parents have 2 great-grandchildren they have never met.

What I'm trying to say is, I don't think you realize how many people this religion has hurt, and how helpful a place like this can be to someone hurting.

I don't post here much anymore because I've moved on. I finally pulled my head out of my ass and am getting an education (no thanks to the WT org) and there are a ton of others who have done the same thing as me, so don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. You don't know what your talking about.

Guest01210

sweetstuff:

You replied to Junction-Guy's post that James may suffer fron Stockhom's Syndrome in this way ..

LMAO

I would be interested in hearing from you as to why this is so funny.

GetOverIt

Hi JamesWind in my experience and perhaps others, it's not hate. It's hurt. And unless you've had any negative experiences, no you would not understand. Hurt, anger, and pain can come across as hate, but that's not always what it is. And this is a place that people who've had such experiences can vent. I have often times thought, when I do come across posts that seem hateful, some of the things you thought, though I've never been "disgusted" nor wanted to "vomit". I also have to keep in mind that each one's experience is different. It's great that you're still connected with the friends you made in the organization. For the majority of the people on the Board, that's not the case. That's why this is such a great board pro or con, we can all state how we feel.

- Angela

GetOverIt

No one would be disfellowshiped for a blood transfusion. The primary ingredient required in all disfellowships is a lack of remorse or extreme severity.

HI JW I forgot to say welcome earlier. However I beg to difer on the above matter. I know (know, not know of) a lady in our congregation who was dissed 'cause she had a blood transfusion. And I also have a good friend who had committed fornication, no one told on her. She stopped and told the brothers herself, guess what? She got dissed. She was remorseful and remained baffled the whole time as to why she got dissed.

Like I said before, unless you've had the experiences, you just don't know. When I got pregnant, I was in a JC meeting and the brother asked me if I liked sex!!! What was the point in that? It was not relevant to the situation. So again, unless you had the experiences, you just don't know. A good analogy someone gave you was about a battered woman, still being hurt and angry. I mean lighten up a bit. You've not walked in one person's shoes on this board.

Why are you here? (I mean this nicely). If you don't understand it, why keep frequenting the Board? When I felt like you did from looking at other boards, I stopped going to them. When I find a post on here that I feel is just plain hateful, I don't read it any further. Are you an active JW?

-Angela

5go

Yeah I hate it when new people say this board is really bad (though I have been tempted to leave myself over certain things) most of the time this board is one of the nicest to post on. You just can't say something weird without being called weird. You can post JW propaganda with out being called a JW.

oompa

I did not read a single reply....sorry all....although I am really a newbie, I have never seen anyone here motivateed by pure hate..... and if they were molested....I would not blame them............................oompa

somebody

JamesWind: >>>"No one would be disfellowshiped for a blood transfusion. The primary ingredient required in all disfellowships is a lack of remorse or extreme severity. Blood transfusion does not fall into the extreme severity category (in terms of breaking the rule) and simply acknowledging that you were scared and gave in to a transfusion would qualify you as remorseful".

I am one who HATES the organization and for as long as it exists, that hate will continue.

Accepting a blood transfusion is NOT A CONSCIENCE decsion if one has to REPENT for making a conscience decsion to accept a blood transfusion. If a JW accepts a blood transfusion, FIRST OF ALL they will be called up to meet with those who hold the title of elders in their congregation. And states," no, I was not scared and am not remorseful, then he or she WILL BE DISFELLOWHIOPPED. Is it normal to have to proove to elders that one is repentent for something there conscience tell them is not a sin and therefore does not need to be repented for? So quit trying to lie here. Most of have been there and NO that you can play with words all you want to, but it doesn't change teh FACTS. Nor does it change the FACT of what the organization is.

I won't even bother to read your excuses in the rest of this thread. For I can see what you are doing already. And no matter what you say to yourself, you are obviously NOT out of the org, mentally. And it shows.

peace,

somebody

Vernon Williams

James,

Just got home from work....long day as always...I am going to respond to this one post.

Do I "hate" the WT? If we are defining "hatred" as: "the resistance to evil and darkness with intensity with the intensiity that manifests itself in the sense of personal loss and, worse ten times over, the personal loss done to one's children" tjhen, yes, I hate the WT.

I had this same conversation with my relatives the other day. They were damining me because I was "judging" the WT and the WT was filled with "good" people.

Yes, I "judge" the WT in the same way I "judge" a rattle snake about to bite my daughter....the thing is dangerous and I will do anything to prevent the strike. The WT is dangerous in the same way: the teachings are lies, half-truths, historical re-wriites, and deception. This is an organization of individuals that have turned mind, heart, and conscience over to men that are depraved, insane, and without a sense of guilt for the crimes they have committed.

And, I do not hold JWs to be "good." They are sons and daughters of Darkness. And, the piurpose of thier lives is to invite others into the darkness and stench they inhabit gleefully.

You left the JWs for the freedom to "screw." And, you, no doubt, led a "screw happy" life until such time as you settled down and any residue of the JWs has not infected your family. Now, you are content and happy. Good for you and I wish you the best.

While you were out "screwing" many of us were being screwed over....I guess that is the difference.

Take care...look forward to your posts.

Vernon Williams

Monett, Mo

(My real name and town.....)

I dont understand the hate...

Share this