I dont understand the hate... (page 6)

JH

When cops give a ticket to someone, it's not hatred, its that they deserved it.....and the Watchtower deserves what's coming to it.

Junction-Guy

Sounds like James might have Stockholm Syndrome

sweetstuff

Sounds like James might have Stockholm Syndrome

LMAO!!

restrangled

James,

It is probably a good thing when points like your are brought up. I mean after all, if a person could eliminate every trace of WTS influence and begin a new life, why wouldn't they?

I think the problem comes in where fantasy meets reality. I'm not a JW. Never have been, but I am married to someone who was raised a JW, as you were.

The reason people can't let it go is not so much a testament to their weakness, as much as a testament to the all encompasing nature of the WTS influence. You can see this many times over in the group think mentality that takes place with anyone raised a JW.

Your post displays one of the most common traits of someone (like my wife) who left the meetings, but the influence never left her. If I had a dime for every time she spouted off the WTS bull**it years decades after she left, I'd be rich. Does this sound familiar?

The Catholic church is the worst.....blah, blah, blah the Catholic church this and the Catholic church that.....

Now maybe you think that you came through unscathed, but I think that your comments are rather typical of someone who thinks that they aren't affected but actually are.

You defend the indefensible (the WTS), you minimize the effects on others, you project your experience as if it encompass eveyones experiences and then you act as if 18 years of influence during your most formitive years can be willed away by the power of positive thinking. All of this is very typical of a JW mentality....which is my point. You think you are different and haven't been affected, yet you think and rationalize just like a JW does.

When you peruse the board and the comments, look at how many JWisms remain embedded in the psyche of posters. Comments on voting, on military service, on politics on charity, on the Catholic church.....many times the comments are verbatim what the WTS teaches....all coming from ex-JW's.

I'd like to talk to your wife about your "clean break from the influence of the WTS" and see just how close your perception is to her reality.

I love my wife and appreciate her, but have lived with the lingering effects of the WTS influence on her for 30 years....it has affected our marriage, the way we've raised our children, the way our children have related to their JW grandmother......

I greatly appreciate the effect that this board has had on her. Instead of hiding her head in the sand or like you, acting like its no big deal, she has worked through her issues as it relates to being raised as a JW.

There's one thing that is far worse than what you descibe as a "whiner" and that is the blowhard that acts like nothing affected them, which comes at the expense of those around them, who have to deal with the fallout of their loved ones untreated loyalty to an organization simply because they lack the courage to deal with reality.

You'll know you are on the path to mental health when you stop defending the indefensible.

R's Hubby

Junction-Guy

Good job R's Hubby

TopHat

I haven't read all the post...just wondering if anyone mentioned to JamesWind, Malawi and how the decision of the GB was directly responsible for the rape and murder of JWs. Mexico got away free while Malawi suffered.

poppers

In 18 years this is my first experience with a group of people who's entire focus in developing a community was to slam the Witnesses.

Then look around here more because you'll see lots of other stuff too - that's what's so great about JWD. I find it interesting that you automatically focus on only what upsets you, so that puts you in the same boat you accuse everyone else of occupying. This place is a place for socializing far beyond the scope of your confining view of it. And as has already been mentioned, many people have left here feeling that they are now ready to move on because this board gave them the opportunity to work through things in a way that they wouldn't have otherwise had. You, sir, are yourself intolerant if you can't see why people need to deal with things in their own way, and if it should take longer than you think is necessary then why make it your problem? Why can't YOU move on?

Junction-Guy

May I put it so bluntly James? why should anyones failure to move on be any of your business?

new boy

James....let me share with you why some may feel a "little" differently then you....lets use a analogy O.K.?

Let us just say the Jehovah's Witnesses is a resturante O.K....you know, like the place they serve food, (they think it's spiritual)...but whatever...

You go there and eat but don't care much for the food ....so you decide not to eat there....anymore....and leave not coming back...Fine.

You now meet other people who ate at the same resturante........for years...these people have had a different experience....they get sick...the cook there kills there mother ....their daughter got molested in the bathroom....They leave the resturante....but the rest of their family stay in the place and get sicker....in fact the food makes them crazy....so crazy they actually forget their real family and friends and they start to shun them...They in fact lose their WHOLE family....to this poison they call food..

Now you come along with your tooth pick your month and tell them...."get over it and quit whinning"

Tell me James, what all did you loose after leaving "The Borg"

fifi40

James Wind

The only thing hated is dogma and its results.......from the many threads on here you will see both of those.

This site gives invaluable information, support and help.........it can literally open peoples eyes..........as well as that it is a social place for people who have had a similar experience.

Your right it isnt good to dwell with hate in your heart constantly but I think your broad sweep is way off the mark and born from a very limited knowledge of this board.

I dont understand the hate...

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