by Save My Soul 151 Replies latest jw friends
in my opinion i never "cheated" on my wife (even if your books tell you otherwise, mine don't). but even if - big deal. morals are negotiable.
I wonder if your spouse would agree with you.
I hope you are not an Atheist, you'll be giving the rest of us a bad name.
nope.not all anyone does everything..its totaly up to the individual man{or woman},BUT!!!!!! i do think that if someone has successfully cheated once,there is a strong draw for that person to continue that behavior...
Window washers are not that smart and sneaky
No offense to window-washers. I personally knew 3 elders of that profession that were not that bright. One was having relations with a student at a Junior College in the supply room.
In response to another comment, everyone has their own moral code. Being a witness or not, I would like to think honesty and integrity are important virtues. I do NOT consider myself a witness, but I am a christian. A man with morals and values outlined in the bible.
If you have an open relationship, then you are probably NOT cheating. If your parner is NOT aware of your sexual activity with another person, then YES, you are cheating.
Just my perspective.
OK, superfine, I'll bite, even though I thought sweetstuff handled it well. Moral Relativism is all fun and games..however, I'll assume that because you said
...some things are better left untold - and no feelings are hurt
that you are a moral pluralist, because you have concern for folks getting hurt. Now, sure, lets say cheating would be fine if the only thing that could be hurt were "feelings" or that it does'nt matter if you don't get caught because it WON'T hurt there feelings. The fact is, though there are at least two physical, non emotional possibilities for hurt w/ cheating. Number one, disease, and even if you are careful and wear a condom, etc., there are many diseases that can be caught anyway, permanent ones, like genital warts and herpes. The next factor is children. Either the person you are cheating with can get knocked up, or if your a woman, you get pregnant. Both scenario's in which someone gets hurt, your kids, the other person, and the one you are with.
So.....whaddya think?
This thread should be titled "do all people cheat"? To ask if all men cheat suggests that it is a problem only seen in men. Women cheat just as bad as men, it's a fact, deal with it.
Not all people cheat, not all men cheat. Men and women in relationships that are not compatible with monogamy will find the missing elements elsewhere. Most of the time it isn't about sex, but about the emotional connection that is missing. The sex is a by product of the connection, although it is usually insanely intense because most of the time the people involved know they are cheating and soak up every little drop of the moment...in every way.
Now of course if the same energy was put into the relationship that is being cheated...the story may be different. But at the same time, to say that it is someones fault in the relationship and not the other is probably the most immature and ignorant statement anyone could make. It takes two, it always takes two. If the relationship is so in trouble and goes so far that there is actual physical cheating, then both are to blame because the signs were there for a very long time that something was wrong. Both parties have a responsibility to call it as such.
And I have to agree with SS...yet again...dammit, I would really like to not agree with her sometime just because. But anyway, you can't decide what facts or which of your opinions should be withheld from someone who in some way is asking for them. Somebody has to tell them.
It's like letting someone run around with their zipper down...show them some mercy and break the news before they go on creating a list of people that saw them screwing up and didn't say anything.
Some people really do continue to screw up just because no one said something to them. Is any of us really in a position to tell who that is?
WLG
And I have to agree with SS...yet again...dammit, I would really like to not agree with her sometime just because.
Yeah, no kidding. Smart AND smokin' hot. Just not fair, is it?
WLG - you forget that our culture from childhood has the male responsibility role etched in stone. The head of family puts his head on the block in spite of the failings of all in his household. There is no room for error that will not go unpunished for one who holds so privileged a position. And he must give up all ambition in their behalf even if they decide on a replacement. Your toil and sacrifice will be discounted should you err. It is the age of the hero without blemish. The streets are littered with failures and prisons bulge from the pressure of expectation and graveyards swell from those chosen to fight and the rejected and dejected. The male child has much to look forward to in modern society - especially his chances of arriving in one of the above scenarios which are much greater than if he had been born female! A man who cheats the above is a successful man!
WLG - you forget that our culture from childhood has the male responsibility role etched in stone. The head of family puts his head on the block in spite of the failings of all in his household. There is no room for error that will not go unpunished for one who holds so privileged a position. And he must give up all ambition in their behalf even if they decide on a replacement. Your toil and sacrifice will be discounted should you err. It is the age of the hero without blemish. The streets are littered with failures and prisons bulge from the pressure of expectation and graveyards swell from those chosen to fight and the rejected and dejected. The male child has much to look forward to in modern society - especially his chances of arriving in one of the above scenarios which are much greater than if he had been born female! A man who cheats the above is a successful man!
I think it's more so like, just as an example, black people and crime. For a long time women were in second class positions with second class jobs and a fraction of the power. Now with more things being equal, also equal is the motivation and opportunity to cheat...and ironically more prevalent are the reasons for it. The real reason is emotional detachment and seperation of "lives", as we pursue our individual goals, we don't even consider stopping to create goals that include both people to replace the individual ones. The emotional gaps widen until someone else slips in. Pun intended. WLG
allright sweet, got you wrong, sorry.
@bvrkzrsk: i am an atheist, and as an atheist i can believe what i want without backchecking what other atheists would say. you maybe haven't noticed, but atheism is not a belief, it's a nonbelief.
@avishai, i didn't say cheating is ok. i said i wouldn't regard this or that as cheating. that's just how you define cheating. is watching porn cheating? masturbation? holding hands? where does that start/stop?
Have you seen some of the ads that accompany this thread, such as the bikini-clad girl and the blonde in the sheets? Well, it's enough to make you cheat! LOL!!
Ian
