still considering going back to meetings...

by oompa 64 Replies latest jw friends

  • carla
    carla

    I cannot disagree more with your therapist for your sake as well as your wife's!

    First, for your wife she will just continue to hold out hope that you will come running back at some point and never have to face any reality at all.

    For you, how can your therapist suggest you go back knowing what you know now? the pedophile issue, blood, suicides, scandals, scholarly dishonesty, unbiblical, etc..etc..etc.... Would she suggest you just 'try to get along with say the Nazi party for your wifes sake? Must you have no standards of your own? Hell, if I was a man I would be using the retarded 'head of the house' thing as far as I could push it! There are times we must take a stand for what is right and good, it is called courage.

    It sounds like this therapist is looking at $ signs and some heavy duty long term sessions. Why must you aquiece (sp?) to her and your wife? We are not talking about you going along to the ballet once & blue moon and she going to a ball game here! This is life & death and people's lives and relationships are at stake every day. If you go to please the wife will she respect you knowing it is all a lie to you? At first it may seem like the 'nice' thing to do but I think it is cruel not only to you but to your wife too. Talk about holding out a carrot!

    Some think I am extreme in comparing the jw's to Nazi's. Well, they keep records like the Nazi's, family members are encouraged to turn in their family members for even thoughts, the Nazi's killed some six million people, maybe the jw's aren't up to that count yet but who knows? How many deaths due to blood issue? how many people died and were maimed due to their old vaccination ban and ban on transplants? how many became blind because they couldn't get a cornea transplant? how many suicides? how many murders (though family murders are rare they do occur) Malawi, all the deaths, rapes, and outright murders were directly the cause of the wt. How many men suffered the unspeakable in prisons due to the no alternative service ban? How anyone can learn of the evils of this org and even ask someone to go back is beyond me. I often wonder what SS Guard spouses thought when they knew what was going on and how they dealt with it. Some may say that it was the times and they had no choice and that could be true. Today we have a choice (in free society) we have the choice to reject evil because when good men & women choose to do nothing evil persists and will win out and become acceptable. Then the pc crowd will tell us we must be 'tolerant'. Some of us choose not to tolerate evil and do what we can when we can, whatever that may be for the individual in this very quiet unknown war.

  • watson
    watson

    Oompa, you don't have to hide anything, or give your wife false hope if you are open and honest with her. If you don't attack her core, but give it time, with patience you will be able to open doors, and let her see what's up with you, your doubts, etc. You can control this situation.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    In WT land, a tiny snowflake (meeting attendance) will become a blizzard (total control and a JC) in short order. They will eat you up for breakfast. And your wife will have false hopes about you coming back. I wouldn't do it. I would pick something else to do like courting her every week, again.

  • dogisgod
    dogisgod

    I agree with worldtraveler, If the therapist isn't willing to subject him/her self to going to the meetings with you then he/she will NEVER get a taste of what you have gone to. Your wife has "free will" to go and YOU have "free will" NOT to go. Would she deny you your God given rights any more than you do hers?

  • dogisgod
    dogisgod

    P.S. Oompa. You know this is not a "Sunday go to meetin" religion. It is all or nothing.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    ..Sarcastic Clap..None of it,has sounded plausible from the get go!..Is there really a therapist,That stupid??!!..LOL!!..TreverGate/OompaGate..Laughing Mutley...OUTLAW

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    I don't think your therapist understands cults.

    I spent 10 years going to meetings trying to keep my wife and family happy. I eventually stopped going, and all I had done was postpone the problems of leaving for 10 years. I could have gone through it all 10 years earlier. I now look back on those last 10 years as a waste of valuable life. I spent 10 years in emotional hell, and only now feel like I am finally alive.

  • avengers
    avengers

    Oompa:

    In the past I have thought of going in under cover. Nobody at the meeting has to know your reasons for going.

    Me, I don't have the stomach to do it. If you do though, much strength to you and your family.

    Andy

  • watson
    watson

    jwfacts...

    Troubling post. Time is valuable.

  • justhuman
    justhuman

    Man get another therapist....I mean the guy has no idea what cults's like JW's are...did he ever read Combating Mind Control, or The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse!!! You better get to the therapist those books.

    What he is actually telling is like a going back there and get abused...is like a woman that divorce a husband that abused her many years sexually and emotionally and the therapist tells her to go back...

    Get a therapist that has experience in cults...end of story

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