President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

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  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Thank you, Hillary, for clarifying your position.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    That does not make them socialist.

    It makes them partially so. As it does the US as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

    BTS

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    It is thoroughly innacurate to call HS a socialist and I should know as I am HS. Not that being a socialist is a sin of course. ;)

    You clearly advocate certain socialist positions. A rose by any other name.

    BTS

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Journey On,

    HS, if I remember correctly, has admitted before that he is a socialist in a past argument.

    Problem with the 'ole memory aye?

    What I have 'admitted' to is recognizing that all political thinking has both its upside and down side and in that way there are many tenets that I might find myself agreeing with from all parties and no parties. I know that such wide political thinking is alien to many Americans whose political ideologies are often more in tune with the tribal mentaility expressed on the sports field rather than a well reasoned catholic view of life.

    I am for example a very firm believer in National Healthcare paid for by universal taxes and have often stated my reasons why on this Board. I am probably closer to the thinking of the social-democrats as expressed in Sweden than any other political party, but certainly not all its tenets. Not that it is any of your business Journey On.

    I believe in justice for all, equality for all, social responsibility and a gigantic bank account!

    I am sure there will now be a swift Wikipedia search for 'social democracy', the first three sentences being read, then a rapid cut and paste back on theis Board....lol

    HS

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    That does not make them socialist.

    It makes them partially so. As it does the US as well.

    Burn, America taxes its citizens. What wiser things to spend those taxes on than healthcare, housing, daycare, food and any programs like schools that benefit, better and enrich the lives of all citizens? That is not the same as the government owning and running everything.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Burn,

    I advocate the position of Socialism do I? Not that it is a sin of course. ;)

    It makes them partially so.

    Now, for someone who thinks that being partially Socialist, partially Republican, partially Democrat or partially pregnant is a poistion to argue ANYTHING from, I must point out that once again you have shot your foot.

    If I see someone staggering in and out, then out and in the revolving doors of political confusion on my next trip to pick up some Socialist propaganda in Venezuela, I will know who it is. ;)

    HS

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow
    I am sure there will now be a swift Wikipedia search for 'social democracy', the first three sentences being read, then a rapid cut and paste back on theis Board....lol

    Very cute and how accurate.

    Sweden is a monarchy with a parliment and multi party system. The social democrats are the party that tends to dominate. It's definitely not a socialist country.

    The thing is that they pay their taxes and they get the programs that are a safety net. We pay those taxes and have little if any saftey net when hard times hit.

  • journey-on
    journey-on
    Not that it is any of your business Journey On.

    Apologies, Hillary_Step. I did not mean to make it my business. My memory is pretty good, but with 8,000+ posts you've made, I disdained to go through the pile to find the one I remember. IMO, you

    have danced around and up and down and sideways using so many verbal moves, that it would take a highly sophisticated decoder to decipher what you have "really" said. But, again...my apologies for

    failing to wade through the sh*t pile to find the one "t*rd" I was seeking. Should have kept my mouth shut per your "hidden" but eloquent suggestion.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Flying,

    I cannot understand why Socialism is so frightening to the US. The US has actually inherited a great deal of positive social attributes with regards to civil rights, social programs for the poor and workers rights, from its own socialist history.

    These rights were of course fought against with fury by the Republican thinking that developed from the Pioneer mentality of the old guard, but justice prevailed and now people like Burn can benefit from the spilled blood of the true heroes of the US political scene. ;)

    HS

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Journey On, tried the search feature lately?

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