Carlos, get a grip. We're talking about two consenting young adults. It's not like they didn't know each other.
Geez!
BFD
by Mincan 87 Replies latest jw friends
Carlos, get a grip. We're talking about two consenting young adults. It's not like they didn't know each other.
Geez!
BFD
You're an adult man, right? She was an impaired, vulnerable woman. I don't give a good GD if you WERE virgins (that can never be said again, right?) or it happened once or 1000 times. YOU just changed her life...and it wasn't in a positive way. Quit making excuses, be a man and take some responsibility.
Carlos
You're reading too much into it Carlos, you're making assumptions and looking like an ass. Do yourself a favour and shut up.
Kwin
BFD...I believe I'm the only one here who has a grip. I don't care if they're "consenting adults" or not. If you take advantage of someone who is weak (whatever the reason), you are in some nasty company.
LOL...sometimes I wonder if many x-jw-ites really learned much from their experience on the inside. Everyone proudly proclaims their "victimhood" readily enough; but when someone is victimized on the outside, it's no big deal. Well...I suppose we'd have to say that all the x-jws here were "consenting adults" and nobody has anything to whine about.
Carlos
I believe I'm the only one here who has a grip.
Carlos, that says it all.
Of course we are all weak in our own ways. Except maybe you, of course.
BFD
Hey Kwin. It wouldn't be the first time...but I'm reading what was written. Time for the 21 yr-old to grow up. If she was your kid, how would you feel?
Carlos
BFD,
It says what?
I'd just like to think that SOMEONE here would advocate for this girl. I suppose it's too much to ask to confront wrong behavior and call it what it is. I'm starting to think Mr Dawg is correct in his appraisal.
Carlos
MINCAN- Hey guy- you are a good friend to me and my wife- and we to you as well. You and your new girlfriend are young , just getting newly sexually experienced. Whether or not you will be with this young woman 10 years from now is a unknown thing. In our early 20's our future is all before us - and if your like some of us ( myself included) you may by the time you are in your late 40's go through several relationships before you find the RIGHT woman for you ! So , since it's a new relationship - I wouldn't sweat it too much.
You both are young and have plenty of time to really get to know each other - if that's what you and her BOTH want. In time you will see if it's just a friends with benefits relationship- or if you guys are on the same similar plane as regards mental, emotional, psychological, physical, and spiritual issues. As some have said , ( especially OTWO ) I would encourage her to read " Crisis of Conscience" by Ray Franz, and "Combatting Cult Mind Control " by Steve Hassan, as it will help open her mind up to how she really has been controlled by the Jehovah's Witnesses. And as you both have a chance to see where each other are coming from on the " Witnesses " issue - then in time you both will know if you want to keep pursuing each other. But remember : Communication is the key ! Keep talking about everything. Good luck friend. Feel free to call me or wifey if you want to talk. Mrs. Flipper can give you a woman's perspective- but I can give you " the guy " thing you may need. We are proud of you. Peace out buddy, Mr. Flipper
Carlos, what "it" says to me is that you have a closed mind and further discussion would be fruitless. If you are the only one that has a grip why would you listen to anyone else?
The young lady's torment is not lost on me. But, keep it real. These kids have known each other most of their lives. I've met, Mincan, and to suggest his motive is to take advantage of her is erroneous at best. She is lucky to have a freind in Mincan.
BFD
Lif eis for living, live it. So you might get hurt, she might get hurt. or you might fall in love and live happily ever after. Who knows. Enjoy the ride!
If she was your kid, how would you feel?
Ok, how old is she? I know the worry doesn't end when your kids reach adulthood. But adulthood is the kicker here.
Would it have been better if they met at a bar, then had a one night stand?
They know each other, have for a long time. I do feel she may be using him in her rebellion. I am the mom of two girls and I am, as of the moment, thinking Min is the one who is being used.
I hope that when my girls are adults I have taught them to be responsible. What their decisions are is up to them, but I will be there when they fail. And they will fail. It's the rule of life.
momz