by kzjw 105 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
He's her husband! He loves her and thinks she's in danger! He wants to open his wife's eyes to what he percieves as something that will damage his and his wife's marriage. I don't expect you to sympathize because you don't have an iron in this fire. I would expect any man who loves his wife as deeply as Krjw to act in the same way. What you think about this matter doesn't matter. He's already discounted your so-called advice. You get no brownie points here Reniaa.
Josie
He's her husband! He loves her and thinks she's in danger! He wants to open his wife's eyes to what he precieves as something that will damage his and his wife's marriage. I don't expect you to sympathize because you don't have an iron in this fire. I would expect any man who loves his wife as deeply as Krjw to act in the same way. What you think about this matter doesn't matter. He's already discounted your so-called advice. You get no brownie points here Reniaa.
Josie
hi josie I do simpathise I wouldn't have come on otherwise, I just think there are some things we cannot justify doing and telling a person what faith they can or cannot have is one of them, If your husband turned around tomorrow and demanded you gave up your faith on his say so saying he knows what is best for you and you cannot decide for yourself would you leave your faith for him?
Where did Kzjw say that he was demanding his wife to give up her faith in God? Nowhere. He wants his wife to know the truth about your so-called truth, the lies spun by the watchtower society. He wants to save his marriage.
Josie
P.S. Don't you dare drag my husband into this.
Reniaa..Anything I have said on this thread about you,can be proven.....If it can be proven as a fact,it is not Ad Hominen.....Being misleading says more about you,than it does about us..LOL!!..........You have no reason to lie?..But..You do anyway..LOL!!.............Guess what?..I`m about to expose you in another LIE!!..LOL!!..Are you ready??..............You claim not to be a JW..Your are deciding if you should go back.....At least that`s your story.....Once again your words betray you............"I have never feared elders and such like they are just men.Whats the point "OF BEING A JW" just to hide things from other people when God can see it all any way".....You admit to being a JW in that post..In your own words!!.....Mary caught you once on this thread..I have caught you a 2nd time!!..LOL!!.............."Your a JW"..You have admitted it twice on this thread..You`ve been caught in a Lie!..Again!!!..LOL!!............................
...OUTLAW
I'd be interested in knowing how many marriages were saved if it got to the point of someone actually saying 'Jw's or me'
You twist my words a little so I will reword my question, Would you change your religion if your husband said he knew best and felt that religion was unacceptable to him? its a retorical question I do not know your hubby this is more of should any hubby/spouse have a right to change there spouse's religion type question.
Erm Outlaw I am a JW i'm a faded one, I have repeatedly said I've never been df'd or da'd I just faded and am only having a study as a refresher lol I have been baptised and though I faded I have never repudiated jehovah in my life, I've questioned him and my choices but my paths have led back to him.
I don't have to answer that question because this topic is not about me. But I do seem to note a hostility towards Kzjw from you. Just because your man left you high and dry when you were with child (Ooops I guess you didn't do such a hot job picking a daddy for your baby, huh?) doesn't mean that all men (so-called worldly or jw) are bad.
don't have to answer that question because this topic is not about me. But I do seem to note a hostility towards Kzjw from you. Just because your man left you high and dry when you were with child (Ooops I guess you didn't do such a hot job picking a daddy for your baby, huh?) doesn't mean that all men (so-called worldly or jw) are bad.
No but thats nothing to do with the discussion at all, my whole reason on joining this discussion was just to say we have no right to choose our spouses faith/religion/God for them it's to personal a thing and so compromising and a lot of love should be brought into these difficult and hard situations, and marriage counciling if things have got really difficult.
"Thinking about becoming a Witness again and my reasons for doing so"..............Thats your thread Reniaa..You wrote it......In that thread you say you left the JW`s 10 yrs ago..In this thread you tell us you are a JW...............Which statement is the Truth..Which statement is the Lie?..Lucky you!..You get to choose...............................OUTLAW
Renaii, here is what you are not getting (aside from it being a dangerous and deadly cult) - the new convert believes he/she should be able to go about his/her jw business with impunity. They cannot for the life of them understand why the spouse should be unhappy or that there will be consquences to their choice. When a jw makes a choice to violate their marital vows and put these men in NY above their spouse and the spouse reacts negatively the spouse is vilified by the wt and the new jw gets kudos all around at the khell for their breaking their martial vows for the words and edicts of mere men, the modern day pharisees in NY.
This doesn't just affect the wife and husband it affects the entire family. It affects in laws, nieces, nephews and so forth. My family will not leave their children alone with my jw because he will attempt to preach to them, no he does not have the right to try to indocrinate family members against the parents wishes. That is only one example. I could go on for pages about the effects. But you Renaii do not hear, you may listen but you choose not to truly hear. You read but you fail to comprehend and you lack the ability to empathize with your fellow man. In the jw world the ends always justify the means, get a new convert -get x amount of brownie points. It is really quite pathetic and ungodly.
When a spouse changes the entire fabric of the family there is going be consequences. The other members have no choice in the matter, there is no discussion, that is not a family that is a dictatorship and selfish . The jw can arrogantly hang onto their cultish ideas but they choose not to do their homework and truly find out if they are in fact worshiping men in NY or worshiping God, they aren't allowed and are threatened with eternal destruction. Did Jesus ever work this way?
I wonder if you are married now or have ever been in a long term relationship because you do not seem to understand marriage in my opinion. Part of the reason the spouses of new converts freak out is because they remember the old spouse, the life together before the jw's. I can honestly say that I do not see one, not one positive change in my husbands since he became a jw. Many negative ones all due to policies of jw's but no positive or healthy changes due to policies of the wt. They become different people and shades of the old self are far and few between and you hang onto hope because of those moments. You begin to wonder what will be your tipping point or that you have reached it and low and behold the old self shines through for a little while and you remember, then you mourn again the loss when the jw self returns. And so the roller coaster goes on and on.
