I finally said it...I don't like jw's

by kzjw 105 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  lovelylil

  My husband and I were also lied to by the elder studying with us. I too said I cannot possibly attend all those meetings and he told both of us that it is a voluntary arrangement and you can attend what you can. What he left out is that if you do not attend all the meetings your family is labled as spiritually weak and no one will associate with you........which is what happened our first few years in the org.

  I never did that with my studies. I made it clear you MUST keep up with all the societies orders including attending all meetings. And I told them NOT to get baptised into the org. unless they felt they could keep up with it. None ever got baptised.

  btw: I was able to tell my studies the real truth because I did not follow the arrangment to have another sister with me. I always did my studies alone. Lilly
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  jgnat

  I'd be interested in knowing how many marriages were saved if it got to the point of someone actually saying 'Jw's or me'

  I know of one. A sweet old lady, wheelchair bound, was studying at the Kingdom Hall for a while. I don't think she was as interested in the doctrines as the attention. Anyways, it got to baptism time, and her hubby put his foot down. "The JW's or me." The study leaders talked about sneaking her off for "coffee" at convention time and baptizing in secret, but they called off the scheme. Thank God. A religion should not come become husband and wife. Not that I condone the hubby's approach, but there you have it.

  You twist my words a little so I will reword my question, Would you change your religion if your husband said he knew best and felt that religion was unacceptable to him?

  Of course, as difficult as I find it to have the Witnesses in my life (and it does affect my life too, even if I am not a member. The society demands a lot from a person), in the end I won't interfere with my husband's free will. Now, I think a religious choice can become a deal-breaker in a marriage if the couple are planning on raising children together. Everything about how that child is to be raised, even life and death decisions around blood becomes a battleground. I think the (non-JW) spouse does have a right to protest, just as a JW partner whose spouse leaves the Witnesses does. After all, the foundation and assumptions of the marriage are directly challenged.

  In my case, my hubby and I married knowing we had religious differences. We walked in acknowledging the difference.
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  mouthy

  Normally I'd agree with you Grace, but Reniaa has been caught in outright lies on this board

  Well darling Mary!!!If your "MOTHER" teaches you to lie. You do as she said. I went around banging on doors telling lies for 25 years. & because I believed it I conned others too as well.

  I do believe she is a JW & thinking she can lead us back to the False Prophet ...It is something I might have done when I was witless ((((HUGS ))))
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  mouthy

  This was my reply

  Dear Becky

  Message

  Yes I could read into your thoughts. But it is very dificult to live with an unbeliever .I was a VERY STRONG JW,my Husband was not He used to beat me to not go to the meetings, I made 10 people JWS ....I have been in the hospital with a fractured skull after a beating,but I thought that was the persecution Jehovah said I would suffer. imagine after my husband died ,I just had to mention to an elder I did not believe in 1914 imagine how distraught I was when they came to my house & said if it didnt believe it I was to be D/Fellowshipped...That is when I was going to kill myself. My husband had told me many,many times that when I was old & he was gone ( he died with cancer) the Watchtower would drop me as they DONT look after widows. He was right. So if your going back you have been warned. God tells us to beware of false prophets & the WT hasnt got ONE of their prophecy right / But I will continue to pray for you ((((HUG))) Grace
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  OUTLAW

  (((Mouthy)))..You are a sweetheart!..LOL!!...If it were that Reniaa simply believed a lie,I could understand that..The fact is,she makes up her own lies..LOL!!..She has been caught so many times,it`s obvious she knows what she`s doing.............On another thread Reniaa said I had mislead her..She used 7 different Bibles to prove it..The same verse from all 7 bibles..What she didn`t say,was that she only used one part of the sentence from that verse..She did`nt use the "whole sentence"!..Had she completed the sentence,the Bible would have proven Reniaa a liar..Reniaa used 7 different Bibles to promote a lie.....Why didn`t Reniaa complete the sentence,from the same verse,from all 7 Bibles??..Because..It proves both Reniaa and the WBT$ to be Liars..........Reniaa rejects anything that makes the WBT$ look Bad..Even the Bible!!........................I`ll go to my room now.....OUTLAW
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  Gram

  Has anyone else noticed how Renaii has the ability to alter the course of a thread to direct it to herself? It then morphs into a lenthly discussion that I sometimes find tiresome and boring. Same old, Same old ...just my opinion.
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  Gram

  Opps, Sorry Reniaa.
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  mouthy

  !!........................I`ll go to my room now.....OUTLAW

  O.K. Come on out OUTLAW!!!! Guess I just am an old fogie I have been believing every lie I have ever been told. Dont ya know I have" SUCKER"written across my forehead LOL
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  JWdaughter

  I read "The Year of Living Biblically" and found it fascinating. Reading about how much of life is given over to the WT related activities made me think of how much this guy was giving over to his project of living Biblically-how much time he spent in the acts of worship, church attendance, rituals, etc.
  
  I think that guy, who wrote a best selling book about his year, spent less time following the Bible dictates in living his life Biblically and any JW does in living their life according to WT desires. His life was less disrupted(and he held down a full time job, went through fertility treatments and a pregnancy with his wife and had a family crisis)and insane when he was trying to live the LAW code for 8 or 9 months! You know, down to the prayers, the tassels and the sacrifices!
  
  I think it would take a LOT out of a family if one was following WT rules and the other was not obligated to all the extra-biblical requirements.
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  sacolton

  Remember the mentality of JWs is that they get no special attention. No birthdays and no holidays to get presents. So, what else can they do to feel special when they are starved for attention? They become the "victim" or counterpoint in every discussion.